With the 215th pick, the Titans select S Brady Breeze

Discussion in 'Tennessee Titans and NFL Talk' started by TitanJeff, May 1, 2021.

  1. Dman5TX

    Dman5TX Pro Bowler

    This doesn’t tell the whole story though. Players don’t just magically get better every year. Once there is tape on your game in the league, teams adjust. Just like a QB. You can’t really say it’s all coaching or all the players just sucked.

    Also, I think there’s a HUGE misconception from our playoff run 2 years ago that our defense was stout. It wasn’t. We were below average in a lot of areas. It was going to be hard to maintain the 3rd down stop percentage and red zone percentage we had that year. There is some luck involved with those situations. Teams had tape on that playoff run in 2020 as well. They saw what our weaknesses were in the KC game. They exploited it.

    I don’t necessarily agree that promoting Shane Bowen was the right call. Clearly something was off last year and it’s almost never one sided. It was probably both, coaching and players not performing.

    It’s very clear what JRob and Vrabel felt the issue was last season. They’ve addressed it and we will have to see how much of last years issues were players/talent related.

    But we have to stop this misconception that players will automatically improve year over year. That only happens in Madden lol. Careers usually have some peaks and valleys. Players are constantly having to adjust to new things being thrown at them because every year teams have more and more tape on a player. They know his tendencies and more importantly they know his weaknesses.
  2. Soxcat

    Soxcat Starter

    Brady Brees has similar workout numbers and size as Hooker. Neither Hooker or Brees are going to be able to play single high S very well but they can certainly fit in as a SS or other coverages.

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  3. Soxcat

    Soxcat Starter

    Hmmm, maybe it isn't "magic" but players typically do get better unless they are simply duds. The jump from the 1st to 2nd year is normally pretty good. Even the early draft picks at position like CB can struggle early in their career before becoming real good players. Fulton and Chris Jackson should obviously be better this year. Evans should obviously be better prepared for contributing as Henry's backup.

    The biggest obstacle on offense isn't just losing Smith and Davis but the fact a QB GETS BETTER when he has the same group of player to work with. So in that case players can get better. Now Tannehill will need to gain experience with a few new faces.

    None of what I said above has anything to do with the opposition watching tape either.
  4. Rwill

    Rwill Starter

    When the entire defense took a step back, I dont know how much I would put it on each individual player. I am willing to give them some of the blame, but come on, the entire defense sucked.
  5. The Hammer

    The Hammer Ace Degenerate

    Not the "Entire" defense.

    They were one of the top teams in takeaways. Overall they sucked, but they at least were leaders in a very important area.
  6. Chronos

    Chronos Pro Bowler

    No, I agree that our defense wasn’t upper echelon two seasons ago. But, there is NO denying the defense crashed and burned last year under Bowen and players who were previously good were not. The players like Byard were too young for a traditional drop off. Coaching was poor on D last year.
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  7. Soxcat

    Soxcat Starter

    So the part about having injuries didn't make any difference? No pass rush and 4th string guys playing CB, best cover LB hurt. Naaaaaa, that never makes a coach look bad.
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  8. Ontario Titan

    Ontario Titan Pro Bowler

    Come on man!
    Brady Brees

    And Brady Breeze
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  9. Dman5TX

    Dman5TX Pro Bowler

    Yeah players typically get better over the course of their careers but they doesn’t mean it’s year over year better and better. Plenty of players have sophomore slumps and then rebound later on or fizzle out entirely.

    But a player who has a bad year can’t instantly be accredited to bad coaching that year. Byard for example.

    I think our fans overrate how good some of our players on defense were before this past season. The lack of production was amplified by our lack of pass rush and/or injuries. Vaccaro, Evans, Brown, all played about par for the course on what they’ve done for us as Titans so far. Again, their limitations were exposed by a lack of pressure. Which also contributed to a lack of 3rd down stops. Our defense was not good in 2019. They stepped up in the playoffs but that unit was not a good unit. That’s my point.
  10. Dman5TX

    Dman5TX Pro Bowler

    You don’t think Byard’s play dipped at all because of the injuries we had at DB and lack of pass rush?
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