Discussion in 'Movies/TV' started by The Playmaker, Oct 30, 2012.

  1. CRUDS

    CRUDS Totally Awesome Sweet Alabama Liquid Snake Staff

    A rare disagreement with Sawdust, but it is Hollywood's fault entirely.
    The public will (and does) like whatever Hollywood tells them to.
    Hollywood has done away with powerful directors, ie the type of person who would make a movie out of a specific artistic vision. A company board decides what will happen in a movie and then they pawn it off to a young director with no power or a total company-man like Michael Bay to make a quick buck.
    This is why the greats like Romero, Carpenter, David Lynch etc can't even buy their way onto a Hollywood movie lot in 2012. They can't even get near one.
    Very few of these guys exist and studios fear them - see Spielberg.
  2. SawdustMan

    SawdustMan The Reigning, Defending, Undisputed Beav Champion

    I'll concede a bit as you make some great points. Still, it's a money-driven business. I get the point about people liking what Hollywood tells them to. But I think that only goes so far. A blockbuster such as Transformers has a much, much higher ceiling (from a dollars standpoint) than most "artistic visions". Not saying I agree that's the way it should be. But I believe it's the reality of the situation.

    I suppose there's plenty of blame to go around. You're right, Hollywood has a share in it. But I also think much of the blame falls on the consumer who values 'splosions over story.
  3. nickmsmith

    nickmsmith Most poverty RB core.

    After Land Of The Dead, I wouldn't be giving Romero any more films either!!

  4. CRUDS

    CRUDS Totally Awesome Sweet Alabama Liquid Snake Staff

    Consumers consume...
    I always think of it the way an old friend explained it. Drink a beer because you love it or put it down if you hate it, but don't let your fear of being uncool have any sway. I do think people like Gunny love superheroes and action and it's not a false thing, but I also know his impression of my stance is totally misunderstood..
  5. Titans Eternal

    Titans Eternal Got the swagger of a cripple

    Well, you did call yourself an elitist. How was his impression of your stance wrong?

    Or were you kidding? You're difficult to read, CC.

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  7. Gunny

    Gunny Shoutbox Fuhrer

    It's not wrong. He's proud to hate the popular thing, part of the herd mentality I think.

    I don't like horror movies but I don't take time out of my day to write how bad it is and how only certain people like it and they're part of a herd and all this rubbish. I accept people like those movies and move on.
    The great thing is, I'm not the only one who notices his my-opinion-is-right-you're-wrong-hollywood/transformers suxors high and mighty opinion of himself.
  8. Alex1939

    Alex1939 Space Invaders Champion

    I hope they will take the movies seriously and move forward with them in time. I like that Harrison Ford said he would be interested, his character is about the only one not ruined from the prequels.

    I hope they are able to fix some of the legacy that was tarnished. And I really hope it's not Solo's kid and Skywalker's kid fighting creepy three horn obvious bad guy. And no more R2D2 and C3PO.
  9. The Playmaker

    The Playmaker pineapple pizza party

    get rid of C3PO but not my boy R2
  10. CRUDS

    CRUDS Totally Awesome Sweet Alabama Liquid Snake Staff

    RE Nick..
    Actually Land of the Dead furthers my point. Romero fought the studio for over a decade to make a movie called Dead Reckoning, which was to be about a team if roaming survivors in the vehicle. The studio would not let him make 'his' movie but rather controlled almost every aspect of the production, including script, casting, editing and in the end the film was 100 miles from being the film George attempted to make.
    I believe the experience broke him and the two subsequent turkeys were in direct retaliation attempting to simple get as far away from the studios as possible..
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