For Those Trashing The OL....

Discussion in 'Tennessee Titans and NFL Talk' started by abc2330, Jan 21, 2019.

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  1. Gut

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    LOL!!! How do you know what I believe regarding the evaluation of a prospect based on athletic testing? I find it funny when you make assumptions and claims I haven’t made...then argue against the thing you just made up.

    Athletic testing versus prospect value is not what we are debating. You said we got better athletes. I said we got better players. You sound like you are on my side but just don’t want to admit it when you say pure athletic testing isn’t as important as how they play.

    Right?
     
    #191 Gut, Apr 30, 2019
  4. abc2330

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    Well Pittsburgh just took a WR from as smaller conference who looked fast on tape, but it didn't show up in his testing. If a prospect tests so poorly that it's a legitimate concern, like a RB/WR running a 4.8 , you really have to wonder how that will translate. But as long as he tests within an acceptable range, then you can trust the tape. Every single test consists of longer sustained movement, or jumping. Not how quickly a guy can move in a confined space. It's just not that applicable to what they have to do on the field
     
    #192 abc2330, Apr 30, 2019
  7. TitansWrath

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    And if it takes the 4.3 LB a fraction of a second longer to diagnose what is happening and react, his entire speed advantage is nullified.

    Mental speed and instinct matters more than raw physical speed.
     
    #193 TitansWrath, Apr 30, 2019
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  10. abc2330

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    OL are like QBs. You assume that their numbers aren't going to blow you away. What's important is their reactionary quickness, which you'll see on tape and may not necessarily be represented in testing. Which is why Mariota can test in the 92nd-99th percentile in all athletic measurements, yet has trouble avoiding pass rushers on the field
     
    #194 abc2330, Apr 30, 2019
  13. Gut

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    I see you didn't answer my question. Can you answer given no measurements or athletic testing? In the above paragraph you give yourself an out..."If a prospect tests so poorly..." but you previously said it doesn't matter, ONLY the tape is important. So which is it? First you say it's ONLY the tape, now you say it's the tape BUT...

    So can you answer my question?

    Lastly, what is the purpose of this ridiculous departure off the original discussion. Do you agree we got better players and not better athletes?
     
    #195 Gut, Apr 30, 2019
  16. Gut

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    it's worse, his speed works AGAINST him since he'll be moving really fast in the wrong direction. In the NFL, standing still for .5 seconds not moving is enough time to give an OL an angle on you. If you take that .5 seconds and move in the wrong direction, it'll take much longer to stop and go in the right direction...far too late.

    Reading keys, film study so you know tendencies out of different formations or player packages, and core play types and what players like to do help speed up the process. That's why with LB's we are always talking about guys who see the play and guys or are a step slow to diagnose.
     
    #196 Gut, Apr 30, 2019
  19. WV2SoCalTitan

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    Not sure what you guys are arguing about, but to answer your question. Yes, you take that wr top 5 and his name is Corey Davis. Eye in the sky dont lie, didn't need combine numbers to know CD was a good wr.
     
    #197 WV2SoCalTitan, May 1, 2019
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  22. abc2330

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    Some input from people who actually watch tape instead of watch guys running around in shorts.
     
    #198 abc2330, May 1, 2019
  25. The Hammer

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    I know eh

    Cool, Tanny made a good throw once

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    #199 The Hammer, May 1, 2019
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  28. LANGSTER

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    More I watch of this kansas state rb alex barnes the more I like him! I think he could well make the team and be our rb number 3
     
    #200 LANGSTER, May 1, 2019
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