That's exactly the point I made. It had too much crap going on and Sandman was the main problem, Venom's failure was because of Sandman. Like I said, Venom was only thrown in there at the last second so fans would shut up and when it got leaked, no one cared about Sandman or his sick daughter (calm down, it's just a movie), everyone was just waiting for Venom to appear. 3 had by far the best special effects and fight scenes, it really did have potential to be good. *Sigh* right? Venom didn't work because they didn't even have a plan for him, he should have replaced Sandman. And like everyone, I wasn't happy about Topher Grace playing Venom either but I see what Raimi was trying to do, instead of making Eddie a creatine taking jock, he wanted Eddie to be what Parker was, an everyday dorky average kid, and captivate the audience with his transformation...but obviously, it didn't work out that way. That's not what I'm talking about, just about every movie will change things if not all movies. What I meant was, Nolan took away the comic book feel (I'm not complaining, I loved what he did with The Dark Knight) and did his own thing with it and like I said, turned it into a crime thriller. It has the same feel to watching something like...The Departed or L.A. Confidential (just throwing some names out there), but throw in a guy in a bat costume, I didn't feel like I was watching a movie based on a comic book. Watch the old Tim Burton (another "dark" director) Batman movies again and you'll see what I'm talking about. Again, it's far from a bad thing, Nolan made Batman appealing for all audiences, not just kids.