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Perhaps Vince Young was more crucial than you thought.

Discussion in 'Tennessee Titans and NFL Talk' started by Deuce Wayne, Oct 24, 2011.

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  1. Deuce Wayne

    Deuce Wayne Damnit, I cant find my driving moccasins anywhere!

    Why has this not been brought up often (if at all)? Has no one attributed the sudden fall of Chris Johnson to the lack of a running threat under center? Maybe Vince wasn't the best leader, maybe he wasn't the best passer, and I often criticized him for using his legs too seldom. However the threat was always there. Teams had to account for it even when Vince wasn't exercising the right to take off.
    The one way to find out would be to look at seasons where CJ had success and take the games when Vince Young didn't play...

    In 2009 the Titans started 0-6 with Kerry Collins. This was when we still had Mawae, so the line was better than it's current state of course. CJ's rushing totals in the first 6 weeks are as follows:

    1. 57
    2. 197
    3. 97
    4. 83
    5. 34
    6. 128
    Average: 99 yards per game.

    Not bad. Let's now look at the games when Vince Young came in.

    7. 228
    8. 135
    9. 132
    10. 151
    11. 154
    12. 113
    13. 117
    14. 104
    15. 142
    16. 134

    Average: 141 yards per game.

    In 2009 that was a difference of 45 yards per game with Vince Young in the backfield.

    In 2010 I can't get the difference because the stats I'm finding conflict with each other. Apparently VY and KC started games together...

    Chris Johnson was a big advocate of VY returning after the Fisher/VY fallout... could this be why?

    If Locker is willing to run around, maybe it wouldn't be such a bad idea to try a few packages with him in.
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    LANGSTER Starter

    very good point
  3. Childress79

    Childress79 Loungefly ® Tip Jar Donor

    Stop making sense Duece. You're going to ruin your reputation.:)
  4. pettso

    pettso Starter

    Interesting point.
  5. Chapparal97

    Chapparal97 Grumpy Old Fart

    Heck, I'd be happy with 99 yards per game. :)
  6. World Peace

    World Peace Season Tickets in the Red Seats

    And Jeff Fisher was crucial too.. He didnt trust VY to throw the ball unless it was an option pitch to CJ.
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  7. Deuce Wayne

    Deuce Wayne Damnit, I cant find my driving moccasins anywhere!

    That or even the 40 yard difference or so haha.

    Even that sounds great right now.
  8. Big Time Titan

    Big Time Titan Big Time Titan

    Considering we're just burning money on Amano and CJ, why not just bench them and Hasselbeck and start Locker, Velasco and Harper?

    It couldn't be as bad as what we put out on the field yesterday.
  9. 2ToneBlueBlood

    2ToneBlueBlood Yes, that's a 15 ft banner of me @ Nissan Stadium.

    Playing devil's advocate here; what about CJ's rookie year where Collin's played every game? CJ had over 1200 yards. He'll be lucky to get 700 this year.
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  10. TorontoTitanFan

    TorontoTitanFan Pro Bowler

    The rookie year thing rules out that explanation for me, too. CJ didn't necessarily have the yards or the touchdowns that year, but he looked every bit as dangerous as he did in the 2K season and it was Collins behind center all year long.
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