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Discussion in 'Tennessee Titans and NFL Talk' started by GoTitans3801, Jun 22, 2006.
Let's just sticky it.
Rankings don't mean anything...
Always based on the previous year and we have seen time and time again how teams play so much better or worse than expected. The rams were 28th going into 99? I wonder how that ranking would have changed when trent green went down. Dead last? What was the pats ranking going into 2001? Had you told those experts that bledsoe would not play much and some kid named brady would be starting 14 games they would have been at the bottom.
In the afc all the top teams have had problems and or questions. Palmer's knee, rothlisberger's face, colts lose edge, pats keep losing players and getting older. Chargers lose brees. Jimmy smith retires.
We went from 12-4, a super bowl contender with an mvp QB to a losing team over night so why can't we reverse that just as fast?
because it is easier to go down then up.
How many examples do you need?
99 rams...from 4-12 to 13-3 ---Super bowl winners
99 colts from 3-13 to 13-3
2000 giants from 7-9 to 12-4--- Super bowl
2001 pats from 5-11 to 11-5---Super bowl champs
2003 panthers 11-5 from 7-9---Super bowl
2005 bears 11-5 from 5-11
2004 steelers 15-1 from 6-10
2004 chargers 12-4 from 4-12
2004 falcons 11-5 from 5-11
2000 eagles 11-5 from 5-11
2005 tampa bay 11-5 from 5-11
2001 bears 13-3 from 5-11
Then you have 8-8 teams that made the super bowl the next year in tennesse in 99 and baltimore in 2000.
In 8 of the 10 examples above a team more than doubled their win total from before.
In the 10 examples given the average increase in wins was 7.3 games.
Gunny, no need to amend your last comment i just did it for you.)
Gunny was just quoting Heidi Fleiss...
without even looking at records I know every Superbowl loser has not made the playoffs the next season since Tennessee in 1999.
That's already five cases and I havent even looked.
anything can happen......you never know
Simple arithmetic tells us that there can't be more bad teams then good ones. In all the games played in a year half of those games will have a winner and half a loser. The difference between a 5-11 team or a 5-11 team can simply be a better attitude, confidence and a couple of key players, better luck with injury etc..
Look at tampa bay this year. There was little statistical difference between the team that went 5-11 in 04 and the team that went 11-5 in 2005. They only improved one spot on defense(from 9th to 8th in points given up) and three spots on offense(23rd to 20th). The main difference was in the running game where they went from 23rd to 14th. A couple of teams in their division declined from the previous year, new orleans had a hurricane, they picked up 2 early wins against teams that were expected to be better than they were(vikes and packers) and voila(that's french!) 5-11 becomes 11-5. And that is not a young team either their best players are old, barber, brooks, rice and alscott.
although the NFL is a zero sum game there can in fact be more bad than good teams at least from a won lost standpoint. In other words the 12 playoff teams could all have 12+ wins and the 20 non-playoff teams would have to average 10+ losses. meaning there could be 8 more bad teams than good teams as one example.
If you add up total wins in the league, they will equal total losses. That does not mean half the teams must have winning records and half have losing records. Last year 17 teams had winning records, 14 had losing records, and the Falcons were 8-8.