No CB in rd 1!

Discussion in 'NFL Draft' started by RollTide, Apr 6, 2012.

  1. edward nigma

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    BINGO, somebody gets it. He is another Kareem Jackson (CB for the Texans). PASS, PASS, AND PASS AGAIN.
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  2. Titan43

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    I don't know much about Josh Robinson, but I do know that picking the best available athlete is almost always the wrong route to go ... especially in the 1st round. Maybe in the 7th like with Campbell or something, but not before then.
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  3. The Playmaker

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    Maybe because Kirkpatrick is a bigger hitter? Yes he did.
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  4. patitansfan10

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    I like Josh Robinson but not in round 1. I don't think he was a 2nd round corner until his workouts not the other way around but he did do pretty well against AJ Green which says something.

    By your logic we should take Gilmore at 20 cause he is over 6 feet tall runs in the low 4.4s high 4.3s and played against SEC competition.

    Teams threw away from him and just because you saw an ESPN 15 second clip of Dre making tackles and Gilmore making interceptions doesn't mean he never made plays on the ball. Shutdown corners rarely get challenged.

    He's got 4 inches on Kareem Jackson and gave up 1 touchdown in his entire college career they are nothing alike.
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  5. xpmar9x

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    I like Dre Kirkpatrick.. it's just IDK if I want us to go CB in the 1st round. I'd prefer DE, DT, C, or G but the more I think about it, CB may not be a horrible idea.

    Dre plays alot like Cortland, but 4 inches taller. Dude has swag. But alot of people doubt his motivation, and that raises a flag to me. If Munch keeps his guy hungry to be great, he could easily be an elite corner. Having Dre, McCourty, and Verner would be nice... especially if we can get a DE 2nd round, and C 3 rd round.
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  6. RollTide

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    Gilmore was a such a stud player he didn't even make 2nd team all SEC. Kirkpatrick, Boykin and Rambo did.

    Also i would appreciate some facts in the analysis like how in the f**k did you get the idea that Gilmore is 4 inches taller than Kareem Jackson?

    Jackson is 5'10 1/2 and Gilmore 6 ft 1/2.

    And when did Gilmore run a sub 4.4?
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  7. edward nigma

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    Alabama plays a great deal of zone, and just like when we look at other players on this Alabama defense, we are left to wonder how much of their play and especially their swagger is dependent on A) being on a unit that is flat-out loaded with NFL prospects and B) playing many offenses where the secondary doesn't have to worry about a passing QB slicing them up. There is just nothing like NFL passing games to be found in the SEC or college football in general most of the time. And so, Kirkpatrick, like Mark Barron, are playing downhill, looking into the backfield because they know that 8 or 9 times out of 10, the play is either a run or an underneath pass which will allow for really aggressive closes by a physical DB and could end in a highlight hit.

    The other concern that is in your head about a cornerback who does not have amazing speed would be this: Will he be beaten over the top? And if he is, will his swagger disappear? Maybe his best attribute is that he exudes confidence and a desire to battle over there on that flank, and if he gets torched a few times (like everyone will in the NFL) will he lose that edge? Mike Jenkins is a player who proved that defeat can get in his head, and that makes him lose much of his appeal.

    I rest my case (Kareem Jackson)
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  8. patitansfan10

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    Umm Kirkpatrick is 4 inches taller than Jackson not Gilmore and that wasn't even directed at you?

    The SEC and C-USA are two totally different animals. I'm just going off your logic of taking a guy based off his measurables like Robinson cause he is tall and fast like Robinson.

    He gave them reason at the Scouting Combine when he quantified his speed with an unofficial 40 time of 4.40 seconds and had the second best time among defensive backs in the 20-yard shuttle (3.94). He also measured a full 1/4 inch over six feet tall.

    On Gilmore from CBS ^
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  9. The Playmaker

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    I haven't heard anything about his motivation but I do think it would be a nice pick and if we can DL then OL we would be on our way to a great draft.

    Gilmore is a good CB but I still don't see how he's projected in the top 25 now.
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  10. dtm586

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    I'll take Barron please. Thats IF he falls to the 20's but man I think he would be a perfect fit in the backfield for the next 5 + years - or until he's a due a big contract and then its "hit the market and leave Nashville time".
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