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Discussion in 'NFL Draft' started by xpmar9x, Apr 11, 2010.
Never known a projected 5th - 6th rounder as hyped.
I agree with this...mostly
other than, Morgan doesn't have "sky high potential" like JPP. He has potential, but so does every other draft pick. Morgan and Graham are NFL ready and ready to play. JPP needs work.
Morgan and Graham are both instant players. They are productive:
Morgan - 52 Tackles - 12 Sacks - 18.5 Tackles for Loss
Graham - 64 Tackles - 10.5 Sacks - 24 Tackles for Loss
Something interesting: When Morgan played Iowa, he was shut down. Didn't get a tackle, sack, anything. However, Graham played Iowa in the regular season and registered 2 sacks and 9 tackles.
Morgan - NFL-Ready, Good potential, work-out warrior, and play maker.
Graham - NFL-Ready, OK potential, work-out warrior, and big play maker.
JPP- Alot of potential, or a huge bust. Didn't play alot of quality teams.
In my eyes, draft Morgan at 16 if gone - Draft Graham. Unless, Haden or Berry somehow fall to 16. If somehow Spiller or Clausen are still available at 16 - try to trade down. They'll still be alot of legit DE/CB talent 10 picks later.
Everybody keeps talking about us trading down but it is not easy to do because nobody wants to give up their 2nd rd pick.
We have to think of the best player at 16 and stop hoping we can trade down and still get that player.
I like Graham better than Morgan. Morgan got 1/3 of those stats against nobody teams and in his 3 sack game against Clemson the QB ran right into him 2X.
Comparing Graham to Freeney is silly since Freeney ran an insane 4.48 40. Are some posters suggesting that all 6'1 prospects are Freeney like? Freeney also had the highest wonderlic score ever for a D-line prospect. Super fast and super smart he is hardly a typical player and he will be in the hall of fame 5 years after his career ends.
I think a 3-4 team may jump up and take Graham before 16. Nfl draft scout have he and Kindle rated 1 and 2 respectively as the top OLB and one of those guys will be gone by 16. I think Mcshay has Kindle going before 16.
I never said trade down for a 2nd round pick, no team will give up a 2nd and a 1st. Besides maybe the Patriots. I could see them really wanting Spiller (if available at 16). So they trade their 1st and 2nd (they have 3) for the 16th overall. Other than that I don't think any team would include a 2nd.
Graham is the #1 3-4 DE/OLB. Morgan is the #1 4-3 DE. I still like Graham more. The only reason I compare him to Freeney is because of the size and work ethic. They both are "undersized" DEs that know how to use leverage and have quick feet. Sure Freeney was faster in college, but he's not that speedy any more. IF you take Freeney with a lil Woodley and combine them, you get Graham (potentially).
HAHAHAHA Only way this happends is if the raiders pick him and we all know the raiders are morons.
I think JJP is the best pick and maybe graham falls to the 3rd round
and we get them both.
And People say JPP play with weak teams so did morgan and graham if we go by who play the better teams dunlap would win.
Also michigan suck this year I bet graham got all his sacks in trash time with back up Qbs and Backup OL.
One good game at the senior bowl means nothing is like Kyle vanderbooch getting 3 sacks in the probowl.
Calling the Raiders morons then saying Graham might fall to the 3rd round
You're kidding right? You honestly think Graham will fall to the 3rd round??
Maybe, if the night before the draft Graham got in a car accident that left him paralyzed... then he may slip to the 3rd.
Graham fits our D the best of all the DE out of the three.
Freeney is a pretty good comparison both have a fast motor, fast first step, and disruptive in the backfield. Plus, the Colts play a similar wide DE like use in our Defence and same with Michigan.
Id be happy with this
For the later rounds The guy from IndyPA hes intriguing, some crazy ball skills. Hes not a bad pick
I also like Brandon Ghee CB Wake Forest, maybe Javier Arenas, or Chad Jones S from LSU
Jacoby Ford is a one trick pony. Mardy Gilyard would be nice for a 3rd, or Dexter McCluster, Jordan Shipley.
With the 4th I like Roddrick Muckelroy LB Texas. High energy, good leadership skills, versatile in the 4-3 D
After that draft guys that will push the players a the bottom of the depth chart to fight for a roster spot.
The first 4 pick are huge this year with no 2nd...
RT comparing Freeney and Graham's 40 times is pretty silly considering their position, don't you think?