KB was just on the Midday 180 for his weekly segment. They were talking about the Bears loss. As well as the 59-0 loss from 2009, which KB was a part of. He said that some guys "Just don't care if they lose. The game is just a means to a paycheck for them." But then the last thing he said before he left was "I just don't see any fight in this Titan team. Even earlier in the season when they had chances to fight back." I wish they would've followed up with "What do you think is the cause of that? And how do you fix it?" So I guess I'm asking it here. And first and foremost, do you even agree with what Keith said? I most certainly do. And I think it's been a problem for several years, pre-dating Munch. So this isn't meant simply to be another Munch-bashing thread. Although I do think at the end of the day, this is his team and it's up to him to change the culture. Is it all on coaching? Or do we REALLY just have that many turd players who simply don't care? That's always been hard for me to believe but I suppose it's possible. Is it a broader problem with the culture of the team? Is it a little bit of everything? Every team has their bad games, some worse and more often than others. But you just don't see many teams seemingly accept defeat so early in a game like we do (at least I don't). Too often we look lethargic and like we're just going through the motions out there when we get down a couple scores, even if it's VERY early in the game. And again, it's been a problem for years IMO. I just don't get it and want it fixed. When did this team become so damn weak-willed?