If Nassib goes top 10, is it the biggest reach in history?

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  1. xpmar9x

    xpmar9x Vote for Pedro

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    Or was it?
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  2. TorontoTitanFan

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    Absolutely not the biggest reach in history.

    Those paying close attention to the draft analysts who actually know what they're talking about (specifically, Greg Cosell -- probably the best in the world at what he does) say that Nassib is the best quarterback in this class. He's certainly no Andrew Luck, but it would not be absurd for him to go in the top 10.

    All the talk about Geno Smith being the top QB in this class came from 13-year-old writers for Bleacher Report and similar draftniks who don't watch tape and don't know what they're talking about.
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  3. xpmar9x

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    Geno isn't bad by any means, however he's not worth a Top-10 pick. Historically speaking, teams will reach for QBs; thus it wouldn't surprise me for Geno or Nassib to go early. Geno can be a good pro, but there isn't a QB in this draft that should start Day 1. Geno has many pros/cons

    + Good Size (6'3 220)
    + Seems to understand defenses
    + Good enough athleticism
    + Good movement within the pocket
    + Active feet inside the pocket
    + Fast & over the top release
    + Good (not great) arm strength
    - Locks onto first read
    - Doesn't handle blitzs well
    - Almost always in Gun, will be under center in the NFL more
    - Inconsistent delivery and setting his feet
    - Struggled in all poor weather games (as do many QBs)
    - WVU playbook isn't very complex, doesn't mean he can't take an NFL p-book
    - Gives me a Philip Rivers cocky/leadership vibe, not necessarily bad
    - Throws into small windows alot, worked in college - less likely in NFL

    Who is the #1 QB depends on your offense you run. If I was a GM needing a QB, I wouldn't take one in the first round. As you can see most QB needy teams went out and found someone... Bills (KOLB), Cards (Palmer), Raiders (Flynn), & Chiefs (Smith). I forsee all QBs falling and a team trading up late 1st to pickup Geno or Nassib. Both should sit atleast a year or two and learn under the vet QB before taking the helm.
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  4. Ensconatus

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    Bills with kolb is hardly "finding someone" he couldn't hack in in AZ. What's the difference in BUF? He won't start long, if at all.
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  5. xpmar9x

    xpmar9x Vote for Pedro

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    I disagree.

    Kolb started 5 games (appeared in 6) before getting injured. In those 6 games he was: 109/183 for 1,169 yards, 8 TDs, 3 INTs (w/ 100 R. Yards & 1 TD). During that span, the Cardinals were 4-2. If Kevin stuck with those performances through the whole reason; he'd would have 3039 yrds, 20.8 TDs, 7.8 INTs w/ 260 yards and 2.6 TDs. That's with playing behind the worst offensive line in the NFL AND virtually no running game.

    You put him on the Bills with an above average offensive line w/ a great running game - he could turn it around. If I was the Bills, wait on Nassib until Rd 2. Start Kolb (if he wins in camp) and hope for the best.
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  6. Ensconatus

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    I remember him flashing but I never thought he was doing those numbers. Still have my doubts tho.
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  7. xpmar9x

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    I have my doubts as well. But, he's not as terrible as the public assumption. He led a 4-2 team and put up above average numbers with virtually no running game or OL; that's impressive in my book. Good enough for me to not reach on a QB, risk waiting until the 2nd. If your QB is gone in the 2nd, here comes Teddy Bridgewater if Kolb sucks.
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  8. JCBRAVE

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    The Blaine Gabbert pick was a HUGE reach in 2011, I thought he had 6th round talent, and he went in the 1st.
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  9. Ensconatus

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    Yea we got locker and while the writer pundits don't want to allow a fair chance, he's by far the better qb of the two.
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  10. TheSureThing

    TheSureThing WHY DIDNT YOU DRAFT JOHNNY FOOTBALL?!?

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    Someone on ESPN, Polian or McShay said he's talked to teams that didn't even see Nassib getting drafted
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