His upside is just too big for me too ignore. He may be raw but everyone forgets he had monster production in a major college conference. If 10 sacks and 20 tackles for loss is what he can do while "raw" I can't wait to see what the guy can do when polished. Everyone hypes up Ziggy now but when you look at his college production Barr blows him away. His Junior year Ziggy played in 12 games totaling 7 tackles (only 3 solo) and 0 sacks Barr's Junior year he played in 14 games totaling 83 tackles (21.5 for a loss) and 13.5 sacks His Senior year Ziggy played in 13 games totaling 62 tackles (13 for a loss) and 4.5 sacks Barr's Senior year he totaled 66 tackles (20 for a loss) and 10 sacks. If we look at the combine measurables the only areas Ziggy bests Barr is 6 more bench reps (21-15) and .03 secs in the 40 4.66-4.63 (Barr did run a 4.4 on his pro day though). Barr beat or matched him in everything else.Gotta consider Ziggy was 15 pounds heavier but the stats are at the very least comparable. Barr isn't perfect but looking at this Ziggy seems to have been by far the riskier pick. If Ziggy was worth being taken at 5 Barr is easily worth being taken at 11. We have Horton who is one of the best defensive minds in the sport and Barr's ex college coach. That sounds like a recipe for success to me.