Gradkowski has played on a lot of really bad teams. Comparing his record to Orton is pretty unfair. Orton was with the Bears (a solid franchise), the Broncos (uhhh.). Gradkowski was with the bucs when they were rebuilding.. and then the raiders. Those aren't very quality teams. Gradkowski seems like a decent QB, shows pretty good pocket presence and what not. Find it hard to believe he'll ever be anything more than a serviceable backup though.