Okay dbc, we know we know, Vince can't beat good teams. You keep saying that when it's not true. Those are simply better teams than us every year. KFC is right where he belongs, sitting on the bench with his hat on. I love KFC as a backup, it's when teams game plan vs. him that I hate the guy. 2008 no one saw 10-0 coming with Collins under center, no one. Not even one defensive coordinator in the whole entire NFL, that's how he kept winning. They were all like "is this guy really still out there"... But as we saw in 2009, he sucks! He's the go-to guy when Vince tweaks that hammy tho. I can tolerate some Collins, but not a full games worth.