Xbox 360?!!?!?!?

go look at Bobo's "been fixed" thread
I've posted alot of info on this subject there
no need to re-post the same info here

simply, it looks like the new 65nm "Falcon" chips are NOT currently in retail SKU's, but that they are coming this fall at some point

my suggestion for overheat
get one of these cheap :Intercooler: devices, or you could devise one yourself from a computer fan - just make sure your airflow is AWAY from the console

the "Dirty Disc" message is an overheat issue and not a laser issue
the biggest issue with the 360 is the placement of the HDD, which completely covers one of the intake exhausts - standing it vertically covers the other

I've seen people actually place turbo fans in front of their units to keep them cool - lots of people are doing lots of different things

me ? I'm not trying to prevent an overheat ... I'm letting it do it's thing
if it fails - so be it - i'll just have to wait for that brown box to get here from Redmond

 

good lord. i have never heard of a system having THIS MANY PROBLEMS.

 

BigT, it's not THIS MANY PROBLEMS
he's only got the one
and it just so happens to be the prelude to the eventual RROD
and it's also pretty common
this is "DIRTY DISC" error is not a laser issue, it's an overheat

you can pretty much take for granted that the majority of pre-July 2007 360's (at which point the secondary heat sink was installed) have a higher risk of failing

 

i know, but you would think the people who designed the thing would have realized that covering up one of the vents with HDD would be a bad idea, then, on top of that, if you stand it vertically you cover up the other.

i remember the launch ps2s having SOME problems, but nothing this widespread and common. i mean, it seems like almost everyone who has bought a 360 on this board has either had it replaced or is thinking of getting it replaced.

 

absolutley
it wasn't a very good design

the Ps3 - with it's onboard power supply and HDD sans overheat, looks like a much better design

such is the case when you have a software company whos only been in the hardware business a few years vs. a hardware company thats ben in business decades