Why isn't Vince running?

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  1. Deuce Wayne

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    ehhhhhh... There are tons of opportunities every game where he has a clear 10 yards in front of him, and he decides to take a sack or just throw a bad ball. The defense can't do much about Vince Young or Mike Vick.
    But as you can clearly see, the opportunities are there. He just refuses to take them.
    He's killing his career trying to prove Merril Hoge wrong.
     
  2. TitanJeff

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    Decides to throw a bad ball or take a sack? Really? :lol:

    Are you serious? Happy Hour already going over your way?

    Despite how defenses have adjusted to him, Young still gets a few opportunities each game when he could run. He's made some of his better passes in those circumstances too. It's a bit easier in hindsight to say one choice is better than another.

    Last season, I think the playbook was limited and he was asked only to make a read or two then go. This year, he has appeared tentative at times but I think he's improving and will develop into a complete QB.
     
  3. Deuce Wayne

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    Vick rushing stats:
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    Year  	Team  	G  	Att  	Att/G  	Yds  	Avg  	Yds/G  	TD  	Lng  	1st  	1st%  	20+  	40+  	FUM
    2006 	Atlanta Falcons 	16 	123 	7.7 	1,039 	8.4 	64.9 	2 	51 	55 	44.7 	11 	1 	4
    2005 	Atlanta Falcons 	15 	102 	6.8 	597 	5.9 	39.8 	6 	32 	41 	40.2 	5 	0 	5
    2004 	Atlanta Falcons 	15 	120 	8.0 	902 	7.5 	60.1 	3 	58 	49 	40.8 	10 	3 	3
    2003 	Atlanta Falcons 	5 	40 	8.0 	255 	6.4 	51.0 	1 	43 	14 	35.0 	2 	1 	1
    2002 	Atlanta Falcons 	15 	113 	7.5 	777 	6.9 	51.8 	8 	46T 	44 	38.9 	10 	3 	5
    As you can see, vick's yards per carry stat never was affected. It actually got better the more he ran. So how anyone could think defenses adjusted to him, who knows. But the stats show they didn't.

    Vince? Same story:
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    Year  	Team  	G  	Att  	Att/G  	Yds  	Avg  	Yds/G  	TD  	Lng  	1st  	1st%  	20+  	40+  	FUM
    2007 	Tennessee Titans 	14 	89 	6.4 	376 	4.2 	26.9 	3 	21 	23 	25.8 	2 	0 	5
    2006 	Tennessee Titans 	15 	83 	5.5 	552 	6.7 	36.8 	7 	39T 	31 	37.3 	6 	0 	6
    Notice, his YPC has actually increased. So much for defenses adjusting to him. When he wants to run, he'll run and he'll have the exact same results every time he does so. Not much a bunch of slow linemen can do about it. If try to stay up on the ends, he can run around them. if they try to come down on the ends, he can shoot through the middle. No matter what they do, unless they just sit at the line, he has an option.
     
  4. Gunny

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    Whatever the reason VY needs to unleash it all against the Colts.
     
  5. TitanJeff

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    Eh? Vince is gaining about 2.5 yards less per carry this season with just about the same amount of runs per game.

    Maybe it's the quad or the fact he hesitates sometimes but it also indicates defenses are scheming to stop him from beating them with his legs.
     
  6. Deuce Wayne

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    Says there that his average this year is 6.4 opposed to last year's 5.5. Unless nfl.com isn't updated. Wouldn't surprise me or anything.
     
  7. Gunny

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    6.4 and 5.5 are attempts per game.

    his average this year is 4.2 as opposed to 6.7 last year.
     
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  9. Gunny

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    Yeah I was confused reading it as well since they were under the respective headings. Just the thing with using that quote box thing, doesn't keep it aligned.
     
  10. Deuce Wayne

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    Yeah. I didn't think it lined up right initially, but then saw a lot of them lined up perfect so just assumed at 2nd glance that they did.
    Crappy copy/paste.
     
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