Trade CJ

Discussion in 'Tennessee Titans and NFL Talk' started by oldoilerfan, Oct 4, 2010.

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  1. PorcupineTree

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    Wow, speaking of uneducated... " I been" and deluted (that's not even a word my friend, thing you were looking for deluded there pal), great to see the American education system's results at their finest !

    Has anyone considered the fact that the offensive line absolutely SUCKS balls so far this year ? Jake Scott has looked like he is on Xanax half the time, and Amano was an improvement over Mawae ? Seriously ?

    CJ is dancing more than 90% of the has been retreads on Dancing With the Stars, no doubt, but he is only a small percentage of the problem here gang. My only major issue with him is that he does seem to be looking for the home run ball every handoff and that is definitely hurting his production and the offense as a wholes production, but if there are no creative plays and blocking schemes to get him into the second level of the defense he's not going to be able to manufacture a huge amount of yardage on his own because of his size, simple as that.

    Brian Dawkins was pretty much living at the line 90% of the second half yesterday, they were daring Vince to throw and right on script Fisher and Dinger played right into the exact scenario the Denver D set up for them. Let's see, 8 and 9 man fronts, yeah, let's run CJ right and left between tackle and guard 95% of the time, let's NOT take any chances by throwing down the field and make them (Denver's D) honor the deep ball, let's not throw and quick slants, or balls that are further than 5 yds off the line of scrimmage, yeah all those things would be too obvious, and we might actually get a few first downs in the second half and give our Defense some rest and recuperative time...

    Fisher, and Dinger (if he's not sac-ing up and telling Fisher his philosophy sucks with a mere 4 point lead and 4 mins to go), are an anachronism... They play football like it was 1970 and there were one or two real athletes on a team that could change the course of a game. Apparently Fisher doesn't watch any games around the league, or if he does he hasn't noticed it's a passing league and a vertical game now... Yes I understand his QB is not a prototype vertical player, but with 4 mins to go and the ball on the 7 yd line running Johnson (who had been stone cold stopped 95% of the plays from scrimmage all day long) twice into an 8 man front was just about all I could take before I wanted to throw everything in in my living room at the TV set...

    Fisher (and Dinger who is obviously handcuffed by porn-stache boy) is 80% of the problem, the line is 17% of the problem and CJ is about 3% at this point.

    Trade CJ ? Hell I would much rather trade Fisher and three quarters of the O line first my friend !
     
  2. tomachek2009

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    look at the dolphins using the wildcat, why cant we use the option more spread chris out, use 2 back options and sets javon ringer can def run the ball, run option plays that what our qb and runnin back strengths are
     
  3. tomachek2009

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    you really going to call me uneducated for a few typo errors atleast i know what i'm talking about, this organization has gone down the drain, are you really going to wait for us to get a new coach, at the rate chris is running he will be dead before we get a coach who knows how to use him and how to actually run and offensive drive/gameplan
     
  4. Ubiq

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    tomacheck, please step away from the keyboard.
     
  5. PorcupineTree

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    Just breaking your stones dude, however, you nailed it, the problem is NOT CJ, it's a retarded coach that is stuck playing and coaching a style of football that is not relative to the way the game is predominantly played nowadays. CJ is not Eddie George, but apparently Fisher thinks he is... I completely agree with you about the over use of and reliance on CJ by Fisher, but yesterdays game was another nail in the coffin with regards to Fisher's philosophy on coaching, managing and game planning. We were moving the ball up and down the field the entire first half, dominating the TOP and stat sheets, sure we didn't score as much as we should be (and that is another troubling trend this team seems to follow), so what does he do as a coach, what are his half-time adjustments ? Stop doing what was fairly effective and allowed his defense to rest up during the first half and go with the whole "let's kill the clock with CJ" routine, which hasn't worked one time this year so far ...

    Your premise was let's trade CJ, and while I agree he is dancing too much and not hitting the holes (debatable that there are any though given the s**** blocking of our O line so far this year), but he is only a very small part of the problem.

    The bigger problems are poor blocking by the O line and a coach who is just completely out of touch, and unable to adjust his game plan on the fly...
     
  6. tomachek2009

    tomachek2009 LEGEND

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    please ubiq but your input it i would love to hear what you finally have to say
     
  7. tomachek2009

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    why keep one valuable asset that our management is ruining when we couple hopefully fill a lot more greater needs to rebuild this organization
     
  8. PorcupineTree

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    So, we trade him and get a few more "valuable assets", what makes you think the idiot trading our one very valuable asset for a few "minor assets" will have any better luck doing the right thing with those "assets".

    The problem is NOT CJ, the problem is systemic, it's the coaching philosophy and the inept coaching and management of "the assets". You HAVE to know what to do with those assets, and he has proven year in and year out that he is unable to adapt !

    When we went 13-3 two years ago what was the Achilles heal of the team ? We had a journeyman, has been QB that had been a cast off from 4 other teams, that Fisher in all his infinite wisdom felt we could win with and it didn't work... Common denominator time gang...

    How do you kill a snake, you cut it's head off, time to cut the head of this snake off... Fisher will never be a highly successful coach, he'll always be a status quo, mediocre coach who on occasion gets lucky, he'll never be a Walsh, Parcells, or Belicheck, or even a Payton or Tomlin, because he is inflexible and unable to adapt to the changing style of play in the league... He caught lightning in a bottle for a few years with Eddie and Mac 9, that was about it, it's been mediocrity city before and after...
     
  9. JCBRAVE

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    I wouldn't trade C.J., but I like the notion of NOT running him up the middle as much. He's not going to lean forward for an extra yard or two the way Eddie use to. C.J. does gain YAC, but he has to juke or shake-n-bake. Teams now KNOW to break down and wait for him. He's been figured out, now it's time to run reverses or send him down field to beat a LB or Safety on 1-on-1's.
     
  10. costarica2

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    No way think about all of us Madden users.
     
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