Titans stats and around the league

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  1. DoubleBlue

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    Not surprised at all by who's first and who's last lol
     
  2. VondyP

    VondyP Undisputed 2QBeaver Champion

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    there you go abc, this one is about mariota, feel free to cry about it
     
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  3. abc2330

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    So 1 guy is responsible for win %? The same guy who has a losing record and a 3 win season to his resume? He's so good! 24 TDs 23 INTs!!!
     
  4. VondyP

    VondyP Undisputed 2QBeaver Champion

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    let it all out buddy
     
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  5. TitanWally

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    Real interesting stat this one.

    1 - Can only assume this stat means win/loss against a side with a winning record, at the time of playing them. Not end of season or some other obscure definition.

    2 - Further proves we, as a team, play better against good sides, and get dragged down to the standard of poor sides. E.g Thump the Patriots last year but lose to the Bills.

    3 - And this one is a bit of a stretch but fits a narrative that I like. In these games against winning teams, we no doubt would of played a bit more no huddle, play-action type football, which IMO has always been MM's strength and has been under-utilised big time.
     
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  6. VondyP

    VondyP Undisputed 2QBeaver Champion

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    i would assume so otherwise the total number of winning teams played would have to be a lot higher, i'd think
     
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  7. JustAFan

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    It's weird, but "winning percentage vs teams with winning record" is not the only seemingly important stat that Mariota looks good at.

    Adjusted Yards Per Attempt is considered by many to be a better metric than passer rating for QB's

    Mariota's Career Adjusted Yards Per Attempt is 7.16 good for the 18th best OF ALL TIME in the NFL, higher than Mathew Stafford or Andrew Luck.
    NFL Adjusted Yards per Pass Attempt Career Leaders | Pro-Football-Reference.com


    If only he could pass the eyeball test, which tells me he is mediocre, with great inconsistency, sometimes playing like a super star, sometimes sucking badly.

    P.S.
    My favorite metric for examining QB's is ESPN's Total QBR.
    (I favor this metric because it both considers situational stuff like down and distance and score of the game, AND takes QB rushing/fumbles into consideration. And yes, it is flawed, like all single metrics, but its better than anything else i have looked at.)

    In this metric, Mariota looks quite average.
    In Total QBR for his 2nd, 3rd, and 4th seasons. (I ignore rookie year, because, well, rookie)
    2016: 13th best in NFL
    2017: 13th best in NFL
    2018 20th best in NFL

    Why did he get worse (according to QBR) in 2018? My guess, and its just a guess, is Delanie Walker. He had Walker in '16 and '17, not in '18, and as the touchdown catch yesterday shows, Walker really makes a difference.
     
  8. HurrayTitans!

    HurrayTitans! Pro Bowler

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    The real best QB don’t meed to go by adjusted metrics or other super limited categories of success. The best QBs also happen to be at the top in your basic Yards, TD, and TD:INT ratio before jumping in, but still also near the top, comp %, rating, or QBR.
     
  9. VondyP

    VondyP Undisputed 2QBeaver Champion

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    very interesting read.... abc not gonna like this one

    Marcus Mariota should survive as QB for the Titans in 2019 | NFL News, Rankings and Statistics | PFF

    even with his epic fantasy stats (as some here say), tannehill was trash last season, basically

     
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  10. Roscoes Wetsuit

    Roscoes Wetsuit Pro Bowler

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    I have no issue with Tannehill. I like him.

    But that last quote was the complaint of my friends who are dolphins fans.

    Thought the guy was completely worthless throwing a deep ball. I even saw a couple of games where he was nowhere even near the WR when throwing bombs.
     
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