Still not sold on mariota

Discussion in 'Tennessee Titans and NFL Talk' started by wycheck28, Sep 10, 2017.

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  1. HurrayTitans!

    HurrayTitans! Useless trivia knowledge champion

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    I think they're riding out comments that were accurate 10 years ago, but just keep pulling those same generic comments.

    I wouldn't be surprised to hear a commentator say handoff to CJ or White or say that Locker is still throwing. Just seems that outside the TN fanbase, no one else cares or even pays attention.
     
  2. GrayGhost1951

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    Nice to see an outsider seeing what many of us already knew. Should be required reading for robiskie and stop this damn running on the first two downs. I used the term locked on, he said predetermined. I also said he has too much time and needs to be pressed to perform. It's such a burden being right....
     
  3. JCBRAVE

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    They do and would be fools not to

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  4. MariGOATa

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    If Mariota becomes a good QB in the league, he will be the very first QB to come from a 100% spread offense to make it in the NFL as a successful QB
     
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  5. HurrayTitans!

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    What about Cam Newton or Alex Smith?
    I'm sure there's more.

    EDIT: Drew Brees?
     
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  6. MariGOATa

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    Nope. They also played pro offense. Mariota is the only QB that only played spread.
     
  7. HurrayTitans!

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    Alex Smith Wiki page:

    College career[edit]
    Smith attended the University of Utah and played for the Utah Utes, wearing number 11. He finished fourth in voting for the 2004 Heisman Trophy and was selected as the 2004 Mountain West Conference Player of the Year. Smith posted a 21–1 record as a starter in college, while leading a high-powered spread offense under head coach Urban Meyer. He led the Utes to victories in the 2003 Liberty Bowl and the 2005 Fiesta Bowl. Smith earned a bachelor's degree in economics in two years[5] with a 3.74 GPA,[6] having matriculated with 64 credit hours earned before attending college,[7] and began work on a master's degree before being drafted.[6]

    Drew Brees Wiki Page:

    After a relatively uneventful freshman season, Brees was given his first start during his sophomore year by Boilermakers head coach Joe Tiller and became an integral part of Tiller and Jim Chaney's unorthodox "basketball on grass" spread offense, serving as offensive captain during his junior and senior years.[27][28

    Cam Newton via ESPN:

    In college, Newton ran a version of the spread offense that is becoming more and more popular among college coaches.
    http://www.espn.com/nfl/draft2011/news/story?id=6355471
     
  8. MariGOATa

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    Yeah they were also under center and their spread wasnt even near the same as Mariota at Oregon. They all share two things in common. Each has a significant history of working under center - and for each, his arm separates him, not his legs.

    A pro style offense basically means that there’s not as many gimmicks in the offense. The QB will call plays under center and will run, on occasion, drop back into shotgun formation.

    Rivers & Brees were “spread” but compare Tebows and Mariota’s they were near as that. For example; Tebow ran the offense out of the shotgun at Florida, he's was going to have to get used to playing underneath center in NFL, which means that he will have to make decisions quicker and, with his slow delivery, that could caused major problems.

    Philip Rivers and Drew Brees played in spread but they knew how to play under center.

    And Alex Smith took what? 8 years to develop to become a game-managing QB. Smith has never found any kind of consistent success at the NFL level. Part of that is the fact that in the spread offense the quarterback is calling the plays out of the shotgun formation.
     
  9. HurrayTitans!

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    So basically Mariota would be the first successful spread formation guy based on the definition that you are currently trying define by adding/taking away whatever stipulations to prevent the term from applying to anyone else.
    Got it.

    Number of gimmicks is not in the definition of pro-style offense, it more related to the formations. Via Wiki:
    "A pro-style offense in American football is any offensive scheme that resembles those predominantly used at the professional level of play in the National Football League (NFL), in contrast to those typically used at the collegiate or high school level. Pro-style offenses are fairly common at top-quality colleges but much less used at the high school level. The term should not be confused with a pro set, which is a specific formation that is used by some offenses at the professional level."

    I also don't think your assessment on Smith is accurate, but we've done this "game-manager" vs. not before. "Consistent success" is also subjective. Playoffs 3 out of 4 years (currently in again) must not count. Statistically speaking year after year, you must think anyone not top 10 is a game manager.
     
  10. Roscoes Wetsuit

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    Every game you here these words "____ will be going up against Marcus Mariota and this high powered TN Titans smashmouth offense."

    Who and why does every announcer crew think we have some high powered offense?
     
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