Raiders @ Titans Postgame Thread

TJ- I agree that VY's mechanics need work. He often throws off his back foot and his release is low. This was a knock on him during the scout phase. I don't think it will/can be fixed and probably shouldn't be attempted. He won't ever be that great downfield passer that many people want.

I didn't think he was all that inconsistent on the 8 incomplete passes yesterday. Williams and Troupe in the end zone, Ganther and Moulds were all passes that should have been caught. I don't know how they count the Gage PI statistically, but o/w that puts him at 10/14 with 2-3 TD's AND NO INTS. I don't have the game tape, but I only remember 2 "bad" passes by Vince- the others were defended nicely.

I understand everybody being agitated by the O's inability to get TD's, but I don't understand how irrational people are regarding VY's performance yesterday. If he were 7 for 21 with a couple of INT's, I could understand better.

 

Right on riverman!!. Besides not scoring a lot is part of Fisher's philosophy of playing, because if everything goes according to plan it'll take us a long drive to score thus not giving opponents enough playing time to get into rythim. The only thing I think could change is VY's mechanics, I don't see why not. He should work on that on hte offseason.:yell2:

 

I watched Troupe the entire play. His foot slipped on his out cut- he almost fell. The ball was thrown perfectly to the spot it should have been- Troupe wasn't where HE should have been. What irks me is that Troupe had PLENTY of time and space to accelerate to get to the ball- he just DIDN'T. I don't know if it was poor ball judgement, lack of heart or absolutely ZERO ability to accelerate. IMO- 9 out 10 NFL TE's could have gotten to that ball easy. I honestly think that will be Troupe's Swan song.

Gage and the defender were pushing off each other the whole way down. The defender knew he was beat and was tying Gage up. I don't know why they called it on Gage- they should have called illegal contact after 5 yards or no call at all. It was bogus. (I really hate whining about calls, but there were SEVERAL call and "no calls" that effected plays for us on both sides of the ball.)

He was floating shorter passes earlier this year but this seems to have improved.

 

That's a great point. I thought the game plan against the Raiders was solid and we stuck to it even when we weren't executing. We came out with the win.

 

I think Vince really lulls his own recievers to sleep with his lazy ball. He'll float many balls during the course of the game and then put a bullet on you, and by then, you get eaten up by the ball. Playing in a pass heavy system in college, the one thing our coaches preached the most was rythm and pace, in order to keep the same mental clock between the WRs and QBs. There isn't a mental clock between our WRs and Vince, and this really disrupts their timing catching the football, especially easy catches. If this doesn't make any sense, think about a slower play being more affected by time than a quick-hitter, that disruption of timing in a quicker, full speed play is less affected by the time disparity because the body is still moving at such a high rate of speed that it can compensate on the fly. But when it is a slower play, slower ball, everything slows down, but the body keeps its same pace, creating a total difference in speeds, the brain can almost not function on the same plane as the ball is on making a simple catch that much difficult because you are waiting on it.

We did a project in school on the importance of timing and rhythm in relevance to the passing game. Quantum Physics

 

I guess the goal is to find the medium that doesn't put Vince in the same injury positions as McNair was, but to not underutilize him either. Tough.