Possible back up QBs...

Josh Allen lol

 

Willis is our #2. You need to start accepting that.

 

I'm not talking about players that were just overlooked or undervalued in the draft and were surprisingly good in the NFL. I mean players that completely flipped their game after being in the NFL for a couple of years and became long term starters.

Which I don't know the draft eval or career trajectory on all those guys that came in 20+ years ago... Lol

I guess my main point is, it's a long shot that a QB develops at this point in their career...especially someone like Willis who has always been run first, not particularly accurate etc.

Could he possibly win some games? Sure... But I think it would be by him playing HIS game, not turning in to a Tom Brady after sitting for a few years.

 

Ala VY. Same thing as far as I’m concerned. Never wanted VY, never thought he would do well at the NFL level and he was much better than Willis is at college.

the ability to learn and adjust is the key. VY couldn’t which is why his career was so short. He got opportunities because of his draft status, the QB situation, and Bud Adams.
I hope Willis is also given the opportunity to sit and watch (without fans clamoring for an unprepared QB) to develop a NFL level ability.
Time will tell.

I do think most of those QBs listed meet the criteria of struggling at first to dramatically turn their game around BUT it still represents a very small amount of exceptions to the general rule.

 

VY was miles ahead of Willis in my opinion...and I wasn't a VY fan at all.

There's also a difference between struggling at first and just not having what it takes. I see Willis as just not being able to transition to the NFL as he's always played "backyard" style football that doesn't translate well to the NFL. Completely changing a QBs game at this point in their life just doesn't happen and that's what Willis needs to do, imo.

 

If I was GM, my starting QB would be a first round talent, and my backup would be a veteran with former starting experience. If you want to win championships, the guy that touches the ball on every down has to be elite. If he goes down, you need someone who's been there, done that.

I don't understand "project" QBs. What's the point?

 

While I can understand your point, it’s not realistic for starters. Not every team has a starter and a backup veteran with any experience or at least that experience has shown why they’re a backup.
That doesn’t even take into consideration salary caps. If you think quality backups don’t know how valuable they currently are, that’s a mistake.

Separate point, proven plenty in recent history regarding the idea you need an elite QB. You don’t. Even looking at just SB champs, we know that’s true but add SB losing QBs and conference championship teams, it’s well known that a QB that doesn’t turn the ball over and a D is all you need.

 

To be fair,

The center also touches the ball on every down

 

Brady and Hass played in pro style offenses in college. Johnson and Warner developed in a league that no longer exists.