I'm really not interested in discussing the history of the evolution of fringe social behavior but suffice it for me to say that the "antics" of those players you referred to were found playful and charmining by some and equally as repulsive by others during their time in the NFL. Two points I want to make in response. 1) The NFL has had a history of players who have exhibited "fringe" behavior by the standards OF THE DAY they were playing in and made complete turn-arounds to later be accepted and 2) Pac has not been found guilty yet- so the only act that people can find repulsive is his inability to avoid trouble. Obviously, the complexion changes further for each charge he is FOUND GUILTY. I don't know what to think about Pac staying out of more trouble before November. He is unquestionably recalcitrant to change his behavior thus far and has completely exhausted his credibility. I'll wager 3 to 1 some other complaint (legitimate or not) is brought against him and 20 to 1 that charges arise from act he commits between right now and November. I don't think we are too far off in our opinions regarding Pac. I just like to minimize "absolute" thoughts regarding other people and their capacity for good.