No comments on Schwartz?

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  1. TitanJeff

    TitanJeff Kahuna Grande Staff

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    Was the Titans D bad in '01, '02 and '03?

    Wait. I forget. When the defense is successful, it is IN SPITE of Schwartz just as it was in Indy and Philly this year.
     
    #61 TitanJeff, Nov 21, 2006
  4. Gunny

    Gunny Shoutbox Fuhrer

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    I blame Schwartz.
     
    #62 Gunny, Nov 21, 2006
  7. Fry

    Fry Welcome to the land of tomorrow!

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    yes, in fact they were one of the worst.
     
    #63 Fry, Nov 21, 2006
  10. SupDawg

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    Please......Don't get me started. Check what? PPG defense? Uh.. Titans were 13th... Guess who led the league in PPG that year? Well, this might surprise you but the SB champs... I guess the run defense isn't as important as you think.
     
    #64 SupDawg, Nov 21, 2006
  13. Fry

    Fry Welcome to the land of tomorrow!

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    i blame schwartz for schemes like "rush four against drew bledsoe and give him all the time in the world to pick you apart" even when EVERY other team in the league knows if you make him move his feet he will give you the game a silver platter.
     
    #65 Fry, Nov 21, 2006
  16. SupDawg

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    Didn't Schwartz lead the defense to a top ranking?
    - That was Gregg Williams. Schwartz's defense ranked 25th his first year (2001) after his predecessor Gregg Williams had the Titans at #1 the year before, who stated, "We led the league that year with the big play quotient, which was sacks + turnovers added together, and nobody had more negative plays against them than when they played against the Tennessee Titans because we were able to take the ball away and sack the quarterback better than anybody in the league combined."
    - The Titans total defense rankings, points allowed since Schwartz took over:
    2001: 25th, 24.2
    2002: 10th, 20.2
    2003: 12th, 20.2
    2004: 27th, 27.4
    2005: 19th, 26.3
    2006: 32nd, 25.6 (as of 11/20/06)
    - With Kearse, Carter, Godrey and Rolle, he could do no better than 10th and 12th in 2002 and 2003, and that's with McNair and George leading the offense to #1 (tied) and #2 (tied) in time of possession in those years respectively.
    - Either way, that's still allowing an average of over 24 points a game throughout his tenure, and clearly getting worse.

    Schartz might not be 100% the problem, but IMO, he is the #1 reason.
     
    #66 SupDawg, Nov 21, 2006
  19. TitanJeff

    TitanJeff Kahuna Grande Staff

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    Right. That was the injury year when the team had to play so many backups. My bad.

    Oh wait. Personnel doesn't have anything to do with the success of the defense, right?

    I guess Schwartz played a lot of bad scheme that season before figuring out how to do it right in '02 and '03 just to forget it all again when the injuries returned in '04 and the cap purge of '05.
     
    #67 TitanJeff, Nov 21, 2006
  22. Vigsted

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    Do you dispute that the talent level in those years were significantly above average? Right now we have average talent, but that shouldn't translate to rock bottom.
     
    #68 Vigsted, Nov 21, 2006
  25. TitanJeff

    TitanJeff Kahuna Grande Staff

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    Well, we're getting closer to common ground.

    I blame Schwartz for much of the problem but I see the players lack of execution as the #1 reason.

    Then again, many blame Schwartz when players don't execute properly. :hmm:
     
    #69 TitanJeff, Nov 21, 2006
  28. Fry

    Fry Welcome to the land of tomorrow!

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    apparently it doesnt, since we have upgraded speed, experience and overall ability from last year and we're even worse.
     
    #70 Fry, Nov 21, 2006
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