# Michigan players improve stock. (Hart/Manningham)

Discussion in 'NFL Draft' started by Deuce Wayne, Mar 18, 2008.

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1. ### BoboGuest

That's the type of speed I think most expected from Mario. Seen him make a lot of deep plays....which can help us.

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2. ### Deuce Wayne#CoachKegstand

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He gets separation many times by about 15 yards on just a straight route. You don't do that runnning 4.5's. I don't care if it's Tony Goose lined up at corner.

and kid gloves, 4.3 speed means anywhere from 4.31 to 4.39, pretty simple. Just like a 13 second car. Could be a 13.9, but it's still a 13 second car.

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3. ### utdtitansCamp Fodder

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Your source was the detroit newspaper. You really trust their sports information over espn and sporting news? I'm really not sure it's an opinion. I think it's a stop watch that times it, they don't just count in their heads.

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4. ### Titans2008Camp Fodder

15 yards rofl. Randy Moss couldn't get 15 yards on a go route without a play action or a defender that falls down.

You can try to slice it any way you want to. I'm sure you can adequately (at least in your own mind) defend 4.38 = 4.3 by citing other scouts/agents/whoever that would rather lean on buzz words than actual math, but in the end 4.3 is just another way of saying 4.30. In any case, how in the world could you possibly think that 4.3 speed starts at 4.31 and not 4.30?? Go to Math class, kid.

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5. ### Deuce Wayne#CoachKegstand

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It is a stop watch. And could you stop a stopwatch at 4.3- if you even tried? Think about how fast 1/10th of a second is, and think about human error. This is why it's bs. You can run it 10 times and your times would be scattered all over the place.
I'll trust any source over espn.
As for 15 yards? An exaggeration, however many, many times he has an 8 yard gap between him and the corner. See for yourself:

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Yes you're right gloat. Actually manningham was probably the fastest player at the combine, all the scouts just didn't stop their clock quick enough for him. I blame his time being slow on the media's bias towards the east coast, because you know michigan never gets it's fair share on sportscenter. He played in by far the fastest conference in the nation and put up uncanny numbers. If he played in the sec he would have set all kinds of records and probably had 4 national championships. He is the next jerry rice, maybe better, I just can't deny it anymore.

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7. ### FryWelcome to the land of tomorrow!

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good to see you've finally seen the light

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8. ### Austin_BillCamp Fodder

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people think it is slow because when they run on other tracks their times tend to go way down. Its a given that tOSU, Michigan, Texas and most every other school uses tracks that are made of materials that spring and are considered fast.

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9. ### Austin_BillCamp Fodder

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Does this mean that Pi = 3.0 since 3.14 is so close to 3.0?

4.38 is basically 2/100 of a sec from 4.4 and 8/100 of a sec from 4.3. I think you can figure out what he is closer to.

And yes you can get separation from slow DBs like the ones in the Big 10. Lets face it the conference is basically two teams and 9 dwarfs.

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10. ### Deuce Wayne#CoachKegstand

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You seriously think Big10 db's are slower than any other conferences? Seriously? I swear espn is TV's version of vodka.
2 teams and 9 dwarfs? Aren't you a Big 12 supporter? Might want to leave this one alone. Might want to at least have 1 respectable team in there before downing another.

And a 4.3 is a 4.3. Never ever has it been "oh, he's not a 4.3 runner, because he ran closer to a 4.4." that'd be the dumbest thing I've heard.

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