Jwill.... You said that eddie, wycheck and mason should get "sub votes" for the hall. I'm fine with that they are all near hall of famers. Very good players who were good for a decently long time. But none of them are all time greats at their positions and none of them will likely make the hall. Another thing is that except for one year, 2000 all three of those guys were not at the top of their game at the same time. We all know that after 2000 eddie was never the same and that was mason's first year as a starting WR. When mcnair won his MVP he did it in eddie's and wycheck's last nfl season when they obviously were not the same players they were in 98 or 99. What bothers me about the whole concept is that you think it is some unusual luxury for a good QB to have good people around him. Don't most top QBs have good players? Early in his career steve had wycheck and eddie in their prime. Later on he had mason making pro bowls, so? Manning had harrison and james. Trent green has great runningbacks and a hall of fame TE. Drew brees had the same. Culpepper had moss for years and mcnabb's best season came with TO. On balance i would rate mcnair's support as average thoughout his career. He had some good lines, a good RB, a good TE, a good FB in 99 and 2000 and for 4 years he had mason. There were times in his career when he had little at the WR position(97-98-05) and when he did have some good players there he won an MVP.