Mason Kinsey (new Titans receiver) Interview

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  1. The Hammer

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    True, and it is far from where most players are from


    Being close to where most players are from is another benefit Tennessee has


    It is not that big a difference lol

    Probably pay more in taxes in Ohio than you would to make up the difference in endorsement money.

    Agents like to push endorsements because those greedy buggers can get a much higher percentage of that money.
     
  2. HurrayTitans!

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    Maybe for the taxes purpose you’re right but the point has to do with a team like Cleveland offering a player more because they’re in Cleveland, a less than desirable place to play (location wise, not even getting into the dumpster fire that is the browns franchise)

    Agree, marginal players can increase marketability without playing well BUT good players can increase their marketability without saying anything. A guy like Marvin Harrison May have reached higher pay to go FA and settle on a crappy franchise. As mentioned, players like to win also.

    -Griffin was a superstar for 1 season until the injury, never recovered and cousins played well to push him out of the picture. His marketability has dropped to the bottom after he couldn’t make a return.
    -Baker is marketable because he’s the browns QB and playing well. Browns will market any decent player to draw in fans just like every other team.
    -Cowboys have been marketable since at least the 70’s. Winning helps.
    -minshew was a flash in the pan. Had fans excited til about week 6, then losing happened. He doesn’t win, he’ll be gone quickly.
     
  3. HurrayTitans!

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    I agree it’s not that big a difference overall, but the point is there probably is a difference.
    Separately, it’s tough to compare when talent means high offers from many teams. Plenty of teams will over pay for talent and location is probably pretty low on the bargaining chips in most cases.
    You said it earlier, players want to win.
     
  4. The Hammer

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    Players want to win yes, and play ;)

    I think playing is the big one, then winning.

    Also remember, only a small handful of players make significant money on endorsements in the NFL anyway. And most of them are QBs.
     
  5. LTF

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    So, back to what this thread was about. This guy went out of his way to do an interview(wearing a Titans shirt) for the fans. Never underestimate mindset. He is from a small school and probably needs a ton of work to catch up mentally. That does not mean he is not capable of playing at a high level in the NFL. I hope he can catch on long enough to develope into his potential. I will be rooting for him.
     
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    I would take miami off that list. The city is just to awesome if you don't care about winning a ring lol.

    Vegas is great to visit but idk if I would want to live there.

    Chargers same as miami.
     
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    Again. What about being in Cleveland makes him more marketable? Sorry my wording was poor.
     
  8. Young54

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    You keep ignoring the question and deviating from the main point. That's 3 times now. How many free agents do you think are fair value vs over-paid?

    Since JRob has such a track record of "over paying" for free agents, what GMs have a track record of singing players at a discount? You can argue most free agents get "over-paid" (the good/young ones especially). That's just the way the league works. Enlighten me.

    and yes, I would wager that jersey sales, endorsements, and other sources of income are more lucrative in Cleveland than in Nashville. The state tax argument is over stated. You only play half the games at home. Tennessee isn't the only state without state tax and for most NFL states, we're talking about 5% or less. For big name players, like the free agents we are talking about, they can make up for that in Jerseys alone in a place like Cleveland over Nashville. There is a reason why players still sign in states like NY and Cali even though they have the highest taxes. Money talks. Which circles all back to the main point, that you need to pay to get free agents, especially in small markets. Sorry dude, Nashville is a small market.

    Go ahead and respond with a joke or a meme.
     
  9. The Hammer

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    I am ignoring your question because it is stupid. Sorry that Ignoring has hurt your feelings so much.

    Your long diatribe is full of your personal speculation, not fact. The fact is very few NFL players make significant money from marketing themselves. And the marketing opportunities in Cleveland are not significantly better anyway.
     
  10. HurrayTitans!

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    He was referring to the pay offered to play in Cleveland vice a city people would actually want to play in.
    That was the explanation of marketable. It’s from the FA standpoint, you can offer less if there are other attractive pieces to offer (desirable city, winning team, etc).
    By that standpoint, a player is more marketable to play in Cleveland.
     
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