Kyrie Bails on the Cavs

Discussion in 'Other Sports' started by VondyP, Jul 21, 2017.

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  1. MariGOATa

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    as far as I am concerned, Shaq was the more dominant player than Kobe in his first three rings.
     
  2. Deuce Wayne

    Deuce Wayne NOW Y'ALL GET THE MESSICH?!

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    More dominant. But someone stepped up in certain moments when they needed it. Rarely was Shaq.
     
  3. MariGOATa

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    Shaq had better numbers than Kobe in his first two chips.

    LeBron has had better stats in all his rings.

    Cavs were bad when LeBron was off court, they couldnt keep the lead or were never effiecent enough, and thats a fact.
     
  4. Deuce Wayne

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    lol you don't even have a sample size to say that.

    He rarely leaves the floor.

    But it's also not a stretch to say that X team isn't as good without their franchise player on...
     
  5. MariGOATa

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    Are you in denial? I just gave you exactly the same stat to your argument.

    Why do you think he rarely leaves the court? Beacause Cavs werent good enough to keep leads or even make runs when he was off the court.
     
  6. Deuce Wayne

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    They did so in the playoffs minus 1 instance. :)
     
  7. MariGOATa

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    Link? Where? In the playoffs was even worse than it was in the reg season.

    They were -14 when he was on the bench.
     
  8. Fry

    Fry Welcome to the land of tomorrow!

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    LeBron sucks.
     
  9. Deuce Wayne

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    Wish I could find it.

    Lestans were clinging to that +/- and people on twitter corrected them, illustrating how it was basically one great spurt of his that manipulated that number while he was underwhelming in that regard for most the series.
     
  10. Deuce Wayne

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    In 45 NBA Finals games, LeBron James has an overall -60 plus/minus.

    LeBron's overall plus/minus for the whole Finals was -7. KD's was +34.


    Damn.
     
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