Gruden Out!

Discussion in 'Tennessee Titans and NFL Talk' started by 10ECTyrant, Oct 11, 2021.

  1. HurrayTitans!

    HurrayTitans! Useless trivia knowledge champion

    Not reading any posts feeling sorry for Gruden which kind of points to you missing what people are complaining about.

    If the Raiders or NFL weren’t going to force him to resign or fire him, would you have a problem with him continuing his job?
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  2. Dman5TX

    Dman5TX Pro Bowler

    But yet wife beaters and rapists are allowed to still play. See the precedence you are setting as a league?
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  3. Dangermode

    Dangermode A New Era has Begun

    What the fearmongering ignorant like this keep calling “cancel culture” is actually public opinion and the voice of the people. THAT is precedent. YOU are the ones seeking to censor and diminish the voice of the people by pretending to be victims of public opinion or “censorship” all the time. Public opinion is how society has kept the powerful in check for thousands of years.

    Enough with the nonsense is right.

    Gruden said bad things and freedom of speech DOES NOT protect him from public opinion. Look it up and stop crying.
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  4. Riverman

    Riverman That may be.... Tip Jar Donor

    Wow. It’s hard for me to believe a person actually believes what you’ve written.
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  5. big22tt

    big22tt Rookie

    One less team to worry about in the AFC….
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  6. RTH

    RTH Meh...

    Unless LV manages to snag a good replacement... a la Indy with Reich.
  7. wrench248

    wrench248 Pro Bowler

    Money/Profit are all that matter.

    Players bring in the money, coaches do not. Gruden likely being forced to resign by the NFL isn't some indication of them taking the high road or doing the right thing, it's a sign of them doing what they perceive is best for their bottom line.

    In this instance, the NFL is in line with the general public's proper outrage over the things Gruden wrote. The costs of him resigning clearly do not outweigh the benefits (positive media attention) to the NFL. However, as we have seen, when NFL players make themselves the target of public outrage for their deplorable (and sometimes illegal behavior), the NFL turns a blind eye and doesn't care about the public outrage. The cost to the NFL outweighs the benefit in that instance.

    This all came down to the almighty dollar.

    Of course a question that I like to ask is why isn't ESPN drawing more scrutiny? Gruden was employed by them during these emails it appears. Was he using their email address to send this crap out, was he on their time? Did they know about it? I ask this because ESPN sure is portraying outrage in their coverage, but conveniently ignores Gruden was their employee.
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  8. HurrayTitans!

    HurrayTitans! Useless trivia knowledge champion

    I’ll disagree that coaches don’t bring in money. Let’s pretend Bellicheck leaves NE and goes to Jax. The money for those two franchises likely shift almost immediately. Without looking it up, I would bet LV had an uptick in their market when Gruden was hired.

    I don’t think the NFL actually does line up with the “general opinion”. I don’t think the outcry for Gruden’s head even represents the “general opinion” among all football fans which is important to distinguish from non-football fans.
    We’re in agreement that the NFL is about money, nothing more BUT, I see them siding with a very loud minority. Those that really cared about what happens to Gruden are either non-football fans or the lesser half of all NFL fans.
    I truly believe the large majority of NFL fans really don’t care. It’s not that they support or approve what Gruden said or did, they just don’t care. (Note the previous statements about not caring about wife/gf beaters, murderers, etc.)

    The NFL has multiple instances of trying to side with this loud minority which has had a larger backlash than had they not made a big story out of it or try to appear as if they are doing it for “righteous” reasons.

    the NFL as a business is either not aware of who their actual audience is or they don’t care. If they don’t care, then no reason to pretend to care so it seems to me, they’re just flat out wrong about who their audience is.
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  9. Ontario Titan

    Ontario Titan Pro Bowler

    Belichick is not doing anything for Jax unless Tom Brady goes there ..we all know that now... But yes Belichick is a JAG..just another guy
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  10. Dangermode

    Dangermode A New Era has Begun

    History will prove me right. It’s shocking that you can’t see it. Take a step back bro.
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