Gruden Out!

Discussion in 'Tennessee Titans and NFL Talk' started by 10ECTyrant, Oct 11, 2021.

  1. HurrayTitans!

    HurrayTitans! Useless trivia knowledge champion

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    Careful with the explanations. I don’t think it was a violation of rights.

    my issue is with the 10 year approval of him breaking their user agreements and accidentally (maybe, still to be determined how much of the WFT investigation actually involved him specifically) finding it later and forcing him into resignation when that is not a consistent effort across the board.

    as I posted earlier, why not scour emails from the last couple decades or snail mail or anything else that likely would have unfavorable public opinion and oust them from NFL history?
    OJ still in the Hall and ring of honor in Buffalo.
    Bruce smith and his record setting DUI count still HoF and ring of honor.
    What about Joe Namath publicity going overboard with Suzy Kolber on live TV? No repercussions there.

    so the biggest question in all of this is where is the line, who does it actually apply to, and who is deciding where these imaginary and movable lines are?
     
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  2. dg1979us

    dg1979us Pro Bowler

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    I wasn't talking to you about his rights, I was talking to Riverman who for some reason brought up the constitution.

    All of those other things are decisions from individual teams. You are certainly entitled to your opinion on things, but just because the Bucs make a decision doesn't mean the Bills have to make the same decision.

    I don't understand what you mean by breaking user agreements.

    The "line" is obviously different for everyone, but honestly, this isn't that difficult. Don't say racist, sexist, or homophobic stuff, etc etc, much of this stuff is just common sense.
     
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  3. dg1979us

    dg1979us Pro Bowler

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    And Gruden has been released by the Raiders, what is the difference?
     
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  4. Dman5TX

    Dman5TX Pro Bowler

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    “Nothing can be done about it” so why is Gruden being forced out? I agree nothing can be done. But something is being done.

    Going to be a real disappointing day for some when they realize how their favorite NFL player talks on the field or in the lockeroom. I mean Lewan on his podcast talks about how he’d mention oral sex to his opponent to get in their head. More people heard Lewan say that than people who read that email from Jon Gruden. Let that sink in for a minute.

    The “damage” was done 10 years ago. So why release those emails now, if not to try and cover up what the entire investigation was really supposed to be about? It makes no sense. Especially considering I’d bet you can find even worse emails on that same email chain involving Gruden. Why not expose everyone? Again, it makes no sense. I have no clue why Gruden is the scape goat to this point.. only thing I can think is Jay Gruden really burned some bridges when he left lol
     
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  5. Dman5TX

    Dman5TX Pro Bowler

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    So should Taylor Lewan be released by the Titans?
     
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  6. dg1979us

    dg1979us Pro Bowler

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    For what?
     
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  7. Dman5TX

    Dman5TX Pro Bowler

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    For what he said on his podcast about how he trash talks opponents.
     
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  8. dg1979us

    dg1979us Pro Bowler

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    I don't listen to his podcast so I don't know what he said. But again, there is a common sense element to this. Talking trash on the field is not the same thing as an influential person in the league talking to other influential people saying gays shouldn't be in the league, using slurs, etc etc.
     
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  9. Dman5TX

    Dman5TX Pro Bowler

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    He didn’t say gays shouldn’t be in the league. Lol

    So it’s ok to talk that way as long as you aren’t deemed (by yourself) “influential”.
     
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  10. dg1979us

    dg1979us Pro Bowler

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    This isn't that complicated. I think most people will acknowledge that people speak differently around different people and in different situations but if you are going to say something racist or sexist etc, then be prepared that their might be backlash and consequences.
     
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