Defense Rebuild: EDGE

Discussion in 'Tennessee Titans and NFL Talk' started by Dangermode, Feb 13, 2021.

  1. Dangermode

    Dangermode A New Era has Begun

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    Boooooooo. ;)
     
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  2. Dangermode

    Dangermode A New Era has Begun

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    We gave up a 2nd and a 3rd to move up for Conklin who helped us to the AFC championship game.
    With the picks we sent Cleveland, they drafted Corey Coleman, Shon Coleman and Deshone Kizer haha. All three were cut or traded while still in their rookie contracts.
    We won that trade.
     
  3. Riverman

    Riverman That may be.... Tip Jar Donor

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    You miss the point. What do we have to show for the picks we spent?

    (and to be clear, we traded up a #15 overall pick (1st) #76 overall (3rd) and #176 (6th) to move up to #8 overall with the Browns to take Conklin over Laremy Tunsil. That’s a lot capital. And in regards to your “won the trade” he is CURRENTLY an all pro for the team with whom we traded our draft capital. So uh no we didn’t “win” that trade. )
     
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  4. Riverman

    Riverman That may be.... Tip Jar Donor

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    JRob slightly above average GM. That means he is slightly good. That means he’s hit on just slightly more moves than he’s missed. I don’t hate JRob, don’t think he’s slightly bad or even really bad. What our past GM situation has been has NOTHING to do with JRob’s performance as our current GM. But if his drafting and FA decisions are not SIGNIFICANTLY better this year, our window to contend will slam shut. And both JRob and the Titans beat writers have stated that publicly.

    Jesus- with some of these posts I feel like I’m on a foreign planet or speaking another language.
     
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  5. Chronos

    Chronos Pro Bowler

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    I don’t disagree, but you are kind of saying two things at once with high picks and 1st rounders. Dodd was a 2nd rounder (as was Austin Johnson). I think JR has been about middle of the pack here. But, when he goes “off script” with either 1 year wonders or Character concerns, he tends to have a miss. He needs to stick to his base parameters all the time. His “risks” haven’t really worked out.
     
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  6. Riverman

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    yes- but Dodd was a #33 overall pick. technically, a second rounder but let's be honest, VERY close to being first round.

    And totally agree. his "early round" projects haven't really worked out as well as we'd like. He has hit on later rounds like Byard and Jayon Brown (if you consider 3rd later).
     
  7. Chronos

    Chronos Pro Bowler

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    Hold on there Brutha, this ain’t horseshoes or hand grandes. This is professional grade fan opinion,there ain’t no “close”.
     
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  8. Dman5TX

    Dman5TX Pro Bowler

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    So you expect a GM to draft a core player in the first round every single year AND be able to re sign them to a long term contract every single time.

    Absolutely ridiculous expectations. Especially with a $30 million QB.

    Being outbid for a player isn’t the GM’s fault.
     
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  9. Ontario Titan

    Ontario Titan Pro Bowler

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    I'm in agreement with you..he's hit on some, missed on some...that makes him good not great imo

    He has to be involved in staff hirings as well? He's missed on those
     
  10. HurrayTitans!

    HurrayTitans! Useless trivia knowledge champion

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    I was just helping explain his point. I don't entirely agree. There's merit in what he's saying but as you pointed out, that can't be the expectation year in, year out.


    Personally, I'm fine with Conklin being gone and still playing well. JRob has to make money decisions to keep a good roster together best possible.
    If there were ANY good offseason contract moves last season, the move to let Conklin walk and ride with Kelley paid off great.

    Unfortunately, that decision also came with a downside cost too. I think JRob only picked Wilson because Kelley was a ? on being talented enough to start for the entire season.
     
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