Can Vince lead a team to a Superbowl?

he's also the youngest guy on that list in terms of game experience. only two of those qbs on that list played well in their second seasons(most of them weren't even starters)

patience is a virtue.

 

Well, I think for you to make a fair comparison, you should now show the qb ratings of all these qb's in their 1st and 2nd year. And then if it proves your point, you should feel not so good. But my guess is that you will be surprised. What you've done in most cases is compare a 6-10 year vet up against a sophmore qb and that's just not fair since most of those qb's had there fair share of struggles.

 

My 2 cents ....

Vince and the offensive talent around him need to improve a lot in order for us to get to the super bowl. MR and Fisher will bring in some upgrades to the talent around Vince. Vince is motivated to improve and will get better. Dinger and his position coaches will get significant improvements out of our offense.

I do think that Vince will lead us to more than one superbowl in his career.

 

Of course it looks good when you leave out certain years and other ratings.

 

We went to the super bowl with mcnair so i see no reason we can't go there with young. Winning once you get there is another thing..

 

I think Mawae said it best, that he has to become a student of the game.

It isn't Peyton Manning's ability to throw, but rather his ability to read the opposing defense.

VY needs to become a football nerd to best know when to run and when to pass (and to whom he should pass) rather than get caught up in public perceptions and expectations about what he should do.

 

Whenever these comparisons are made we find ourselves comparing hall of fame QBs with the so called running QBs. Is it fair? There have not been that many running QBs while there have been hundreds of those other guys. What we know is that cunningham-mcnair-mcnabb are near hall of famers. Just because they are not as good as a montana or brady doesn't mean a thing because those guys are the best ever..

Cunningham and mcnair could have won super bowls. A missed FG from one of the most reliable kickers ever cost cunningham a chance at a super bowl a super bowl he may have won. We know how close mcnair got and mcnabb came close also.

Cunningham-mcnabb-mcnair-garrard all have had 100+ passing ratings for a season. A lot of QBs have not done that.

Cunningham-mcnabb-mcnair-garrard-vick-v young all have won at least 52% of all the games they have played. That proves to me that a running QB can be a winner even if he is not a great passer and being a winner means a super bowl can happen.

 

I cant believe we're already asking if VY can take a team to a Superbowl? Good lord, we just got to the playoffs this season, VY is going into his 3rd, technically 2nd full season. And of all those QB's you listed, only Brady and Roethlisberger won a Superbowl in less time than VY has been in the league. How many years did it take Manning to get over the hill? How old was Warner when he finally got there? Hell, McNabb spent 4 years straight of getting to the NFC championship, 3 not getting to the Superbowl. I love how everybody wants to question VY now, becuz of 1 bad statistical season that will still got to the playoffs. By the way of all those QB's in that list, name one that didnt have some sort of offensive weapon to use? I think before anyone puts up a list like this, they should also state what the QB's surrounding offense was like.