Titans OC Todd Downing might be the least popular person in Nashville right now.

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  1. TitanJeff

    TitanJeff Kahuna Grande Staff

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    No argument from me that Downing sucks on many levels. But to say Tanny’s play vs. the Bengals was due to Downing is simply wrong.

    I blame Tanny or poor WR routes for every INT in that game and I believe the film backs it up.
     
    #101 TitanJeff, Sep 15, 2022
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  4. Broken Arrow

    Broken Arrow Just a Fan....

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    However, he hired Kelly as passing game coordinator -- which translated, means "you keep fn up, Todd and this guy becomes OC"

    So yes, Vrabel hired him --- but Vrabel also has shown the ability to see the writing on the wall with bringing in Jim Schwartz last year for the same coordinator issues, just on the defensive side of the ball.
     
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  7. TitanJeff

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    At what cost? How many games do the Titans need to lose for Vrabel to understand that Downing isn’t a competent OC and his own offensive philosophy is outdated?

    I think Vrabel is too arrogant to admit it regardless of who the OC is and adding Kelly, without changing approach, solves nothing.
     
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  10. RockyTop Fox

    RockyTop Fox Offensive Coordinator

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    Both Downing and Vrabel are to blame. We lose to bad teams because we play to not lose and have a very predictable run on first down offense. Here's what Mike Keith had to say about the Giants loss and the predictability of the offense:

    "You’re gonna play that game a little differently too because you are against an opponent that is probably not going to score 40 points. Are you gonna utilize personnel differently against Buffalo? Probably so because they can score 40 points. That bunch yesterday averaged 15 points a game last year and it took all they had to get to 21. I’m not knocking them, I’m just saying you are just trying to win the football game is what you are trying to do in those situations.”

    We have always lost games to bad teams under Vrabel. The Dolphins and Buffalo in 2018, the Jags, Broncos, and Panthers in 2019, the Bengals in 2020, and the Jets and Texans last year. 19 of Henry's 21 runs vs the Giants came on 1st down. Unless Vrabel ditches the old school mentality it's not going to stop happening regardless of who the OC is.
     
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  13. PattBattMann

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    What is frustrating is that everyone knows the problems, even national media. It's very possible that Vrabel keeps Downing throughout the season to not cause a stir, but he actually has Kelly do all of the work. Downing would just be there in person only.
     
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  16. Broken Arrow

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    Probably the same amount it took to bench marcus. 6 weeks. Lassoing a 2-4 record.
     
    #106 Broken Arrow, Sep 16, 2022
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  19. Ontario Titan

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    Vrabel needs to look outside of his Houston/New England ties and do what's right for this team rather than his buddies.
     
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  22. Rwill

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    I am a Tannehill fan. Last season he played a lot of bad football. He was off all season long. His decision making was off and his accuracy was off.
     
    #108 Rwill, Sep 16, 2022
  25. Titans2004

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    I have to disagree.... the play design of the opening play was a horrible. We had double TEs on the left on the line of scrimmage and 2 WRs on the right...so it looks like a power run to the left, but instead we go play action to Henry running off of right guard... so their is absolutely nobody for the safety to worry about on the left side of the field... so he easily undercuts the WR and gets his easy INT..... horrible play design
     
    #109 Titans2004, Sep 16, 2022
  28. TitanJeff

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    Watch the play. Jones was wide open when the ball was supposed to be on him. Tanny throws it as designed, it’s a huge gain.
     
    #110 TitanJeff, Sep 17, 2022
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