Gruden Out!

Discussion in 'Tennessee Titans and NFL Talk' started by 10ECTyrant, Oct 11, 2021.

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  1. Chad81

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    It's all because he called Goodell a fag, it became personal. The NFL was going to continue leaking emails until Gruden either quit or was fired. The media would continually harp on the Raiders organization as a whole and they'd be under immense scrutiny to do something about it. I'm not defending Gruden, but I'm sure plenty of coaches and NFL execs have said things just as bad.
     
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  2. Soxcat

    Soxcat Pro Bowler

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    I'm guessing close to 100% of the none gay men and boys have used the term queer or fag and many of those who are gay as well. Just a sign of the insanity we have now.
     
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  3. Dangermode

    Dangermode A New Era has Begun

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    I have absolutely no problem with this. First of all, he sent the emails to numerous people. If he wanted privacy, he should have written his thoughts in his princess diary or screamed them into a pillow. Sending messages like this in group settings is irresponsible and is borderline hate speech. Not to mention he repeatedly insulted the man who is essentially his ultimate boss. Moronic.

    Second, he wasn't "cancelled". Just because politicians have made up this shiny new term to give whiners something to cry about, doesn't differentiate it from the "court of public opinion" which has been around since the dawn of civilization. Someone does something bad, people have every right to be angry or shun them. How else will people learn to be more respectful to each other.

    Lastly, you seem to be confusing freedom of speech and expression with the freedom to do or say whatever you want without any repercussions whatsoever. Sounds like you want anarchy to me. No one censored Gruden. No one canceled Gruden. No one stopped Gruden from saying whatever he wanted. But actions have consequences. Look up Newtons third law and quit trying to make a racist, bigot the victim here.
     
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  4. Dangermode

    Dangermode A New Era has Begun

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    Humanity wins again. A racist bigot was uncovered and quit his job in disgrace. The world is a better place IMO. F*** Gruden.
     
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  5. titansrule00000

    titansrule00000 Pro Bowler

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    Commissioner got his feelings hurt!! Makes me Wonder if Goodell has ever heard the players talking s*** to each other on the field.
     
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  6. Tewa Titan

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    If thats the case give us, Gotitans, access to your personal correspondences. Got make sure the person calling someone else a racist bigot isn't a racist bigot. See were this leads to.
     
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  7. PhiSlammaJamma

    PhiSlammaJamma Critical Possession

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    The shining light here is that people get treated differently. Right or wrong, it's all circumstantial. Sometimes it's the path you choose. Sometimes the path chooses you. And that's probably a much more interesting debate.
     
  8. Titanoiler51

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    No way that is happening. Some of you just don’t get how toxic these racial comments are and in particular in the sporting world where the vast majority of the players are black. You can recover in this world from recruiting violations, drug and alcohol use, infidelity and many other things. But you can’t recover from and sort of racism or sexual assault/harassment issues. Not in major sport.
     
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  9. Titanoiler51

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    Sure, if you live in fantasy land…statues of limitations don’t exist in the court of public opinion. And high profile jobs care a lot about that court.
     
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  10. dg1979us

    dg1979us Pro Bowler

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    There was no way he was going to survive this, but it is telling that a lot of the same people defending this and complaining about cancel culture, are ok with Kaepernick being out of the league because they disagree with his political views (because that wasnt cancel culture I guess?). Regardless, teams and the league in general arent going to employ a high profile coach with this type of history of racism, homophobia, and misogyny and it isnt really that difficult to understand why.
     
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