The COVID Thread

Discussion in 'The Lounge' started by TitanJeff, Aug 27, 2021.

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  1. HurrayTitans!

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    Generally speaking I believe I’ll be fine but being forced to take is additional insurance for me, that if I have a negative reaction, I’m getting paid by those that forced me to take it. The can go after the government specifically regarding the use, approval, push of the vaccine as a whole. Since I work for the government, my particular case would also be on the government dime.
    Literally no one should be forced to take this vaccine yet. It needs more testing and specifically dealing with long term possible issues.

    As it’s been discussed, this is looking more like a annual flu vaccine vice a one time measles or chicken pox vaccine. No one is forced to get a flu shot although highly recommended. But the flu scientists also recognize it changes every year, it’s about time the COVID scientists start regarding it in the same fashion and stop pushing get the falsehood that if you’re vaccinated, you’re good.

    And, because this is an every year thing, time to drop all the restrictions (mask, social distancing, etc) because the reality is it’s never going away an no one wants to remain in these conditions indefinitely which goes to another falsehood about everyone getting vaccinated, that things will go back to normal. As we see n the current vaccinated population, that’s not happening.
     
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  2. Psychop1

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    Yeah I encourage everyone to go back and watch the video, you’ll see where he said it was a sub award from EcoHealth. And it was. All public record verifies this.
     
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  3. HurrayTitans!

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    It will which is still ongoing.
     
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  4. Psychop1

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    Actually, it very well did go back to normal for a little while or pretty close to it.

    I don’t think that’s going to work out the way you want it to. A lot of military personnel did the same thing in the 90’s and 2000’s. We see how it panned out for them. The federal courts certainly will avoid it for as long as possible because the precedent is pretty clear, but it will be a touchy issue in the current political climate.
     
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  5. Psychop1

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    Yep and in 50 years it will still be ongoing :biglaugh:
     
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  6. HurrayTitans!

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    It may not but if I get the vaccine before mandated, it most certainly will not work out. That’s why I said it was additional insurance. If I volunteer for the shot, I have no case with anyone ever.
     
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  7. HurrayTitans!

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    It already is a touchy issue. Lawsuits on the legality of forcing the vaccine have already started. Secdef just published his mando memo on Wed. People were waiting for it. Navy still hasn’t published the official order yet (called navadmin or EXORD).

    For the record, I don’t think anyone will win the case of arguing they don’t have to get it. Maybe the medical condition folks (which is extremely small) but I don’t think they’ll need a court case to be waived.
     
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  8. HurrayTitans!

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    Different cases and certainly different starting points.
    You remember how the news was dominated by anti-anthrax vaccine military members? Of course not. It was never even advertised to the public it was happening.

    In this case, not only is there a rushed vaccine, with still ongoing effectiveness testing, but this has been argued from the onset.
    I can’t predict how that would roll out, but lots of differences between the two cases despite some similarities.
     
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  9. Laserjock

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    Anyone believing Dr. Fauci is some nefarious scientist hiding funding sources or whatever are just falling into the pool of the uninformed conspiracy nuts. Global funding or research into the SARS family of viruses has been ongoing for over 10 years, with a large dataset of genomic info derived from that work which allowed for the rapid development of the vaccines we now have today.

    All the talk of the vaccine doesn't work and herd immunity is the answer clearly have not had a loved one, friend or acquaintance hooked to a ventilator or die from this virus. I am thankful we did not have this ridiculous mindset during the smallpox or polio era.

    As stated above, the reason we are in the next surge is due to people who have been misinformed or politically are motivated not to take it even though their current and former political leaders have received it themselves. Political leaders and right wing media are willing to sacrifice the very people they service by convincing them to resist vaccination or give veterinary drugs a higher place on the shelf not realizing just how stupid that is.

    As a scientist who works on new drug development projects, including new COVID vaccines, I am frustrated beyond belief. As a southerner I am done with all of them. No excuses anymore...could care less about any of the stories of them on their deathbed taking their last breath saying "I should have taken the vaccine". I hate that I have come to that but it's where I am at. Darwinism in full force action.

    Play medical roulette if you want...take the vaccine if you want to guarantee you will not suffer from the worst this virus can deliver.
     
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  10. Psychop1

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    And what do you think “work out” looks like? Large sums of cash thrown your way?
     
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