For Those Trashing The OL....

Discussion in 'Tennessee Titans and NFL Talk' started by abc2330, Jan 21, 2019.

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  1. Gut

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    If the drills were the ONLY thing that mattered for OL at the combine...why do they measure their athletic ability?

    The more you try to run away from facts...the more nonsense you’re gonna say.

    There is a saying. When you’ve dug yourself a hole...stop digging!!!
     
  2. Dman5TX

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    This entire thread is you defending the o line and blaming Mariota for almost all of the sacks lol gtfo here with your backpedaling a$$
     
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  3. abc2330

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    Jonah Williams tested poorly, and it still didn't prevent him from being the first lineman selected. Unless a player tests extremely poorly, teams don't put nearly as much stock in the testing as you believe. They refer to the tape.
     
  4. Gut

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    He’s trying to hold onto the idea that the OL has nothing to do with Mariota getting sacked. When confronted with the reality that we got rid of both of our OG’s and are interested in upgrading OC....he claims it’s just because we want better athletes.

    So I was pointing out we didnt get better athletes...we got better players...which supports the idea that the GM agrees we needed better players on the OL.
     
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  5. JR1980

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    Scheme definitely played a role in our OL...As did poor play by our Guards and Center, and it didn’t help that Conklin wasn’t fully healthy either. I think it’s a mixture of both. I think the line was a bit banged up and unstable, but I also think Mariota didn’t help things by being unsure in the pocket. I’m happy we went and got Saffold and Davis though, it’s pretty sweet. I just hope we can grab a Center in the near future....
     
  6. Ontario Titan

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    Or reach for the rope not the shovel!
     
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  7. Gut

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    So again...you’re agreeing that better players were gotten...not better athletes. There is a difference. Better players can maximize their athletic potential on the field...even beyond what they should be able to based on a number of factors. But I digress.

    Playing football has certain advantages like that. As one coach once told me...”I’d rather have a 4.5 LB going in the right direction than a 4.3 guy going in the wrong direction.”

    Btw...Jayon ran a 4.51 at his pro day. He looks like that on the field.
     
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  8. Gut

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    To really compare...you’d have to evaluate each and every sack. You can’t go by time he holds the ball because a play with a 7 step drop with a hitch step takes a lot longer then a 3 step drop. Also what the d is doing and how many receivers out all are important factors.

    So if you wanna go thru 100 sacks...have fun. Easier to just wait until we see them play behind the same OL. Mariota will either play well Orr he won’t. If he doesn’t Orr gets hurt...we’ll see T-hill behind the same line. Then let the arguing re-commence!

    Til then there arguments in both sides which can’t be won without the aforementioned process which wouldn’t be agreed upon anyway.
     
  9. HurrayTitans!

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    Absolutely in agreement. I’ll be saving this exact post for the rest of the whiners and cryers about Mariota and his sack issue. It’s not all him, it’s not all the line. Every sack needs to be looked at from a case by case basis so the sweeping generalizations pretty much hold no water outside a coincidence.
     
  10. Gut

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    Really? So take a small school wr that dominates his competition but never plays anyone who will even be drafted. He looks faster than everyone on the field and more athetic and skies over the mini-cb’s he’s playing against.

    What draft grade do you give him? Not knowing his height Orr size Orr speed Orr any athletic trait beyond what you see on film...since you think that is all that matters in projecting guys to the NFL.

    Is he a top 5 pick like his film and stats suggest? Where do you take him?
     
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