Titans to Sign CB Malcom Butler

Discussion in 'Tennessee Titans and NFL Talk' started by Dman5TX, Mar 13, 2018.

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  1. Gut

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    I just poked around their website. It is pretty amusing. Fry is right, they now have come up with their own rationale and their own 'stats' and equivalents...just explaining this is what THEY have figured out. Which is also concerning when you look at various claims. They have two people grade a game, then have an arbiter if the grades differ to 'rule' on what they will use. And then because those aren't 'good enough' (my words), they send it to be reviewed by some council in which the grades may be changed and THEN 'normalized' (their word) and translated into a rating of 1-100. They even admit that their grades can change during the week.

    Sure. Their grades are perfect and replicable? NOT!

    I see they have taken away their previous claim of being able to give secondary grades just by using the broadcast view...lol!

    Still, when I see them make claims along the lines of all DL are the same whether they are in a 3-4 or 4-3 doesn't matter...it makes any football person think they don't know what they are talking about as the design of the defensive fronts are different! Essentially saying they can compare apples to oranges no problem.

    Clearly this is aimed at fans that want to be 'in the know' but don't understand enough to see the numerous flaws which make these rankings...let's say...unreliable.

    And just poking around their ratings and articles...they come to some strange conclusions.
     
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    That's funny. If you believe in PFF...they actually think our secondary is GREAT...but you seem to think the opposite?
     
  3. Gut

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    I'm referring to when he was rated higher than Eric Berry and yet was cut from his team. You said they rated him very highly in run D coming into this year (if I'm reading what you've posted correctly) and yet he wasn't very good this year even against the run.

    So how are they grading players well?
     
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    Madden ratings. All you need.
     
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  5. Gut

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    So Butler was a second team all pro from the AP...but he was FIRST TEAM all pro from your favorite PFF!!! If your PFF ("best website by far" according to you) had him as their first team all pro...doesn't that PROVE to you that he was a top 10 cb that year?

    Was Fuller a first team all pro this year? No. Second team all pro? No.

    I'm not getting your point. If Fuller was so good this year...why wasn't he franchise tagged? Why didn't he make either level of the ap's all pro team?
     
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    I think Butler is solid. He was going to be a very hot FA and we snagged him. Why is there much hate on the guy when he has been solid for the Patriots? The Pats didnt replace him throughout the years which tells u something. They could have easily drafted someone else if he was so bad but he was their starter for numerous years. The only time anyone can question anything about him is the SB where no one even knows why it happened and everyone even his teammates wanted him to play and didnt understand it. For a team that needed secondary help we sure addressed it. Yes me missed out on Peters,Talib, who was ur other choice? Butler seems like a much better pro to fit our system compared to them who all have shown behavior problems.
    This is also a domino scheme. Other players want to play with Pat players and we even snagged a Pats RB in Lewis who has highly wanted in FA too. I dont think without him signing we land Lewis. Lets see who else follows based on who we have signed. Maybe even Suh.
     
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    where was Logan Ryan rating on that site? just curious
     
  8. MariGOATa

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    Last year it was. Probably with Butler it becomes a pretty good duo.

    Just curious, where do you rank Butler as a player? How far better do you think he is, lets say, to a guy like Logan Ryan? Personally I think on a talent level their pretty much the same.
     
  9. MariGOATa

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    Around 74, wich is considered ‘average’ by their system. I think thats fair
     
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    Is there a list of the high ranking CBs on that site or do u have to search individually? If theres a list can u post the link. Id like to see who they have as the best and worst.

    I dont think Logan is average and I dont think hes elite. Adorre Jackson is average to me and going to get better. But for his rookie year Id say hes average which most rookies are below when first coming into the league.
     
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