Urban Meyer in Trouble? (#MeToo)

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  1. VondyP

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    Gene Smith's lawyer gives no ****s and is telling it like it is:

    The biggest problem in this OSU matter is the rush to judgment and the erroneous reporting of details by some irresponsible media and the amateur reporting of false information on social media. So, as a lawyer deeply involved in the investigation on behalf of Gene Smith, I am compelled to simply state the facts.

    The investigation was commenced to determine 2 issues: did OSU cover-up domestic violence and did Urban lie to the media in furtherance of a cover-up. After an exhaustive investigation that involved 40 witness interviews and thousands of documents, the investigators who were searching for information to enable them to answer these questions yes, answered them both NO.

    But to justify the 500k investigation, you have to find something. The facts established that Gene Smith learned fo the 2015 allegations and immediately pulled Urban off the practice field to inform him and ordered the Assistant back to Columbus not to Ohio State but to go directly to the Powell police to answer their questions.

    He then discussed the matter with the Title XI Compliance Official and Public Safety liaison and Human Resources and he ordered OSU police and OSU officials to monitor the Powell investigation. No OSU official can interfere in a criminal investigation or take steps to make it appear they are influencing an investigation. Powell concluded there was no evidence to support the allegations and we now know this person made false reports on other ocassions.

    But the investigation had to find something so they said Gene and Urban should have reported it to Compliance. Really? Compliance handles NCAA matters not domestic violence.

    And try as they might investigators could not find any evidence that Urban lied to anyone. They concede that Urban was confused by the question and thought he was being asked the same thing he was asked the day before when someone suggested Zach Smith had been “arrested” for domestic violence which to this day has never occurred. Despite digging deep, the investigators concluded Urban misspoke and did not lie to anyone.

    So, why the sanction? Well, isn’t it obvious? The country was lathered into a frenzy based on erroneous information and a long delay and OSU needed to appease the lynch mob that had formed as soon as the unproven allegations were made.

    As a result, two great men fell on the sword for a University they dearly love. And both men faced a room full of reporters and admitted they failed in their duties to better manage and react quicker to a troubled employee even though they had no idea about the information that has since come out about some of the things he may have been doing.

    Those are the facts.

    Two men who don’t deserve the public flogging but who agreed to take one for the team so this great University can move forward with all of its amazing athletic and academic initiatives. Sorry for the length of this and I am not looking fore debate. Just waned to make sure the facts are straight.
     
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  4. VondyP

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    aint over til its over'











    still tweeting strong as i post this also
     
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  5. VondyP

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    oh look mcmurphy is taking back even more of his story because courtney smith admits she lied:



    this dude is absolutely getting sued by zach smith lol
     
  6. dg1979us

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    I bet he doesn't get sued, and if I was an OSU fan, I would probably hope he doesn't.
     
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    lol why would i hope he doesnt? he ran with a story from someone that was making **** up. and he didnt get the other side of the story AT ALL. poor journalism leads to defamation lawsuits. guess he should try to report both sides next time.

    or, you know, fact check ANYTHING
     
  8. dg1979us

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    You realize that a lot more would come out if this went to court and they got to depose people involved? And who knows what the new stuff would be, but I would definitely look at it as a "be careful what you wish for" type of thing. Especially since new stuff still seems to be coming out almost daily already, without courts involved.
     
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  9. VondyP

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    he just drug the university through the mud over accusations that he did not fact check whatsoever, he deserves whatever is coming to him

    the school did a full investigation so if there was more to uncover they would have covered their asses and fired urban, but obviously there was nothing there and there was no "cover up" whatsoever. I have no worries about more stuff coming out. if it hurts anyone it will be zach and if he really did stuff and it comes out then he deserves it.
     
  10. dg1979us

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    This is false. You are talking about one detail, which he corrected. That doesn't mean he was wrong about the whole thing.

    The press conference the school gave was a complete joke. Including, not giving the investigation results to the media beforehand, so they could read it and ask questions based on it. I am sorry but if you want people to take the investigation seriously, it should have been handled better at the press conference, and not come across that they did as little as they had to, and just wanted the whole thing to go away.

    Regardless, my whole point was just be careful what you wish for. I'm not sure this thing is over even now, but if courts get involved, then it definitely isn't over. And, Meyer got a slap on the wrist, so if I were an OSU fan I would want Zach Smith to shut up and for this whole thing to go away.
     
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