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Discussion in 'Tennessee Titans and NFL Talk' started by meekmode, Sep 24, 2017.

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Yeah after reading more of your post it's very clear you generally just want to see what you want. As an African-America I can personally tell you there are many ways in which we are systemically oppressed daily in ways that most choose to ignore. I can name so many times I've been personally subjected to the ugliness that is racism and oppression.

To name a few:

The time I was shopping at BJs for a large picnic. Purchased $800 worth of food (3 shopping carts filled to the top) only to get to the door and have the older white male proceed to look at every single item in my carts and search for the corresponding line item on my $800 receipt! The manager, who helped me bag up my items at the register, ended up firing the guy.

The occasional harassment by police officers. One particular time I was stopped, wasn't speeding, didn't break any law, no busted tail light, or anything. Cop proceed ed to remove me from my car without telling me why I pulled over to begin with, and ran my plate and license. Once everything came back clean they asked me how can I afford my car. My response at the time, "I work" #shrugs. (at the time a Software Engineer with Lockheed Martin).

I've also been profiled at a luxury car dealership as the Sales rep profiled me and assumed I couldn't afford the car I was there to buy. I purchased the car from a different dealer.

I can speak of times when I've been denied construction loans from banks saying it's because my credit history (even though my credit was well over 750).

There was also the time I was hired by a hotel in Philadelphia, put on schedule, and fired after the General Manager took one look at me. His reason for firing me, he said I was unable to perform the duties of the job. I was hired as a bus boy cleaning tables and at the time was dual majoring in college in Computer Science and Electrical Engineering with a minority in Mathematics. Yeah he had a fine time trying to prove to my attorney that I couldn't "perform the duties of the job".

Sad thing is this is no where near my full story just a small fraction of my truth.

You asked how are minorities oppressed? I ask you, why are the majority of low income areas filled with African-Americans and Hispanics? Why are those areas suffering from poor schools? Why did former President Obama face a record setting amount of filibusters during his presidency? Why have there been only 10 African-American senators in American history? Why have there only been 3 non-white Supreme Court Justices in American History? Why is the average net worth of white households $144,000 compared to only $11,000 for African Americans. Why are African-American's and Hispanics significantly less likely to own a home than Whites?

Let me be very clear here, I love my country and nothing here is meant to bash or offend anyone. However, as a country we can do better...we have to do better. Racism still exist and oppression is systemic. One of the reasons it's systemic is because minorities are the majority in low income areas. Lower income means lower property taxes, lower property taxes often mean poorer schools, poorer schools mean the children in those areas are less likely to pursue college, those who do are less likely to graduate as they are often under prepared, lack of college degrees mean lack of opportunity. As a whole minorities are cut off from obtaining higher paying white collar careers, forcing us stay in low income areas. Eventually we start our families and our children become subject to the same social inequities as us. It becomes a vicious cycle resulting in a limited ability to progress as a culture.

Are there exceptions to this, absolutely, but they are the exception. I'm one who is considered an exception as I'm from a low income area in Philadelphia that is composed of all Blacks and Hispanics. The probability of either being killed or ending up in jail is greater than getting admitted into college from where I'm from. So yes this is a major problem in our country and one that should be addressed. Unfortunately, it may not ever be because the country refuses to face its past. It's also the fact that minorities as a whole are under represented in positions that can influence social change (hence my question about Justices and Senate members). More importantly it's because the country is driven by separation instead of unity. It's always an us versus them mentality when we are all American's? Why is it that trying to uplift a minority culture always offset/overshadowed by the supposedly loss of opportunity or reduction of privilege for our majority counter part?

My point in all of this is this isn't just coincidence. It's a problem and why the country is hurting as a whole. As the previous poster said, if people don't see the inequalities, it's simply because they don't want to which is just saddening.

Sorry guys didn't mean to go off on a long tangent there, I promise I will not post anything more regarding this topic after this.

...back to football! lol
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That's a lot of anecdotal examples that you can't prove not only that they happened but that they were all racial motivated as you say, being pulled over by a cop isn't instantly being profiled, I've had the same thing happen none of these examples are proof of systemic racism. How many black people are running for office? Will you vote for a politician just because he's black? If so, that's really sad. I'll happily vote for the best policy I couldn't care less about skin color. Why does the color of a politicians skin matter so much to you, we just had a black president, voted into office.... by these "racist"Americans?

Lots of problems in the black community, single parenthood is one of the biggest. Why are fathers not sticking around? children raised by single parent homes are 20x more likely to end up in prison, 10x more likely to end up in poverty. You have women having kids specifically for benefits, basically marrying the government, this is learned helplessness and is product of a generous welfare system. Does that sound like a good situation for the kid? Is that racism holding them back? I don't think so.

Blaming cops and white people for everything only enables this behavior, solving black on black crime and single parenthood should be high on the list of things to fix in these communities yet both are ignored and everything is blamed on the system, white people and cops. Nothing will change as long as black fathers aren't raising their children in masses. Blacks killed 6k other blacks, police killed a little over 100. Black people make up 13% of the population and commmit 50% of all homicides. Are white cops also magically running up and pulling the trigger for them? NFL players should be speaking and creating opportunity in their communities yet they think tweeting at trump and kneeling during the national anthem will fix it.they could all use their platform for so much more. If you want to discuss further, make a thread in taboo.

Also for racism to be systemic you have to actually have laws and policy oppressing groups... where are they?

#91 meekmode, Sep 25, 2017
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cozmicfool said: ↑

Yeah after reading more of your post it's very clear you generally just want to see what you want. As an African-America I can personally tell you there are many ways in which we are systemically oppressed daily in ways that most choose to ignore. I can name so many times I've been personally subjected to the ugliness that is racism and oppression.

To name a few:

The time I was shopping at BJs for a large picnic. Purchased $800 worth of food (3 shopping carts filled to the top) only to get to the door and have the older white male proceed to look at every single item in my carts and search for the corresponding line item on my $800 receipt! The manager, who helped me bag up my items at the register, ended up firing the guy.

The occasional harassment by police officers. One particular time I was stopped, wasn't speeding, didn't break any law, no busted tail light, or anything. Cop proceed ed to remove me from my car without telling me why I pulled over to begin with, and ran my plate and license. Once everything came back clean they asked me how can I afford my car. My response at the time, "I work" #shrugs. (at the time a Software Engineer with Lockheed Martin).

I've also been profiled at a luxury car dealership as the Sales rep profiled me and assumed I couldn't afford the car I was there to buy. I purchased the car from a different dealer.

I can speak of times when I've been denied construction loans from banks saying it's because my credit history (even though my credit was well over 750).

There was also the time I was hired by a hotel in Philadelphia, put on schedule, and fired after the General Manager took one look at me. His reason for firing me, he said I was unable to perform the duties of the job. I was hired as a bus boy cleaning tables and at the time was dual majoring in college in Computer Science and Electrical Engineering with a minority in Mathematics. Yeah he had a fine time trying to prove to my attorney that I couldn't "perform the duties of the job".

Sad thing is this is no where near my full story just a small fraction of my truth.

You asked how are minorities oppressed? I ask you, why are the majority of low income areas filled with African-Americans and Hispanics? Why are those areas suffering from poor schools? Why did former President Obama face a record setting amount of filibusters during his presidency? Why have there been only 10 African-American senators in American history? Why have there only been 3 non-white Supreme Court Justices in American History? Why is the average net worth of white households $144,000 compared to only $11,000 for African Americans. Why are African-American's and Hispanics significantly less likely to own a home than Whites?

Let me be very clear here, I love my country and nothing here is meant to bash or offend anyone. However, as a country we can do better...we have to do better. Racism still exist and oppression is systemic. One of the reasons it's systemic is because minorities are the majority in low income areas. Lower income means lower property taxes, lower property taxes often mean poorer schools, poorer schools mean the children in those areas are less likely to pursue college, those who do are less likely to graduate as they are often under prepared, lack of college degrees mean lack of opportunity. As a whole minorities are cut off from obtaining higher paying white collar careers, forcing us stay in low income areas. Eventually we start our families and our children become subject to the same social inequities as us. It becomes a vicious cycle resulting in a limited ability to progress as a culture.

Are there exceptions to this, absolutely, but they are the exception. I'm one who is considered an exception as I'm from a low income area in Philadelphia that is composed of all Blacks and Hispanics. The probability of either being killed or ending up in jail is greater than getting admitted into college from where I'm from. So yes this is a major problem in our country and one that should be addressed. Unfortunately, it may not ever be because the country refuses to face its past. It's also the fact that minorities as a whole are under represented in positions that can influence social change (hence my question about Justices and Senate members). More importantly it's because the country is driven by separation instead of unity. It's always an us versus them mentality when we are all American's? Why is it that trying to uplift a minority culture always offset/overshadowed by the supposedly loss of opportunity or reduction of privilege for our majority counter part?

My point in all of this is this isn't just coincidence. It's a problem and why the country is hurting as a whole. As the previous poster said, if people don't see the inequalities, it's simply because they don't want to which is just saddening.

Sorry guys didn't mean to go off on a long tangent there, I promise I will not post anything more regarding this topic after this.

...back to football! lol
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That's a lot of stuff...while I was in the NAVY I was the victim of systematic attempts of MP bullying. Every time I would leave the base when I returned I was stopped and my vehicle was searched by the MP's. Drug dogs and the whole nine yards, taking seats out of my jeep...everything....this one MP really had it in for me...of course I was sleeping with his girl...so..I guess it was all good.

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This was my email to my Titans ticket rep this morning:

I am disgusted by the Titans lack of participation during the national anthem as well as Amy Adams Strunk's comments. It is also appalling that the Titans have hired someone to sing the national anthem that would then kneel after the anthem. My dad, aunt, and uncle all served in different branches of the armed forces. This country has afforded Amy Strunk the opportunity to co-own a stadium and for the Titans coaches and players to earn annual salaries in the hundreds of thousands to millions of dollars (top 1% incomes in the United States). The disrespect they show this country is ruining the NFL gameday experience. Ultimately, fans like me just want to be entertained by a football game on Sunday. I am very disheartened to see the Titans utilize this behavior and lessen the experience of attending or watching a game. There are many other options of entertainment on a Sunday, and it may be time for me to consider those options if this is how the Titans plan to operate.

There are other means and manners to protest or show concerns about the nation rather than disrespect the country and flag during the national anthem. Most to all of this should be done outside of Sundays in front of the paying customers.

TICKET REP NAME, I realize you have nothing to do with this, but I don't know where else to voice my complaints to the Titans organization.

Regards,
MY NAME, original PSL owner.

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Yeah, we did. Besides that being a painful national anthem to watch, why would she lose her job due to kneeling?
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her job is to sing the national anthem
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Keep discussions on football in this area of the form. What to talk political issues? Take it to Taboo.

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Thank you TJ. One of the most impressive (and signature) home wins by our team and the post game thread is littered with the political elements. I'll check in taboo because I have a few things to say.

That was an intense, hard fought old school game. And although I hate having to say it, we did get screwed on a few key plays by the stripes. Sherman should have been booted- I don't know any way they justify allowing him to play. I hope the sports pundits light him and the refs up. I love the way Lewan was right on him. And he didn't take a swing which I was afraid he would do. That was a galvanizing moment for the locker room.

Fowler was awesome. I'm glad his getting reps now. He'll definitely continue to contribute.

We wore the Seahawks down. They're definitely a stout, top 5-10 defense. Murray's run was amazing how he used his blocks and that so many blocks were going with him downfield. That play happened because of our commitment to the run game in the 1st half. Watch the replay and you'll see Seahawk defenders running like their carrying 100lb bags of sand. And we were in the dark jerseys. This team IS tough.

I had to go to a father-daughter shrimp boil and missed this game. Very painful. But my son was there with his buddies and they were loud and proud. I'm glad he got to go to a game reminiscent of old time Titans football.

Seriously- no complaints from me at all about the coaching, team and game. Hard fought and overcame some REALLY bad officiating. That was a galvanizing day.

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