William Hayes

I'm just curious if Carr was in the top 600 list.

 

We took a chance on a small school prospect with freakish measurables, yes he could have been had for a later round. Your arguement that I believe Gunny is saying is not logical is just because he wasn't on your list of draftable players it was a terrible move. Your in the later rounds you take chances on guys like that every year it happens, we have them every year every team does.

 

History suggests he wasn't worth the pick.

I read the first thread- it IS very entertaining.

I love that Fisher said "we got some calls from other teams stating they WOULD have picked him with their next pick..."

I'm sure the boys in their draft rooms were "Let's tell Fish that again after his next waste pick" or "Can you believe Fish FELL for it..."

 

http://www.nfl.com/draft/2011/profiles/william-hayes?id=4483

Compares To: ROBERT MATHIS-Indianapolis...At this stage of the game, he looks just like Mathis did coming out of college. Like Mathis, his technique is very raw and he will need a total refinement of his pass rush moves and hand usage. He is too high cut to get a good anchor, as he plays at a highly elevated pad level. But he has very good natural speed to come off the edge and until he works on mechanical refinement, he can at least give good value as a situational pass rusher.


Same measurables and play style of Mathis coming out of college, Mathis was a 5th round pick from Alabama A&M. We pulled a trigger on a sleeper that could have ended u being like Mathis, however he turned out the way he did a rotational backup. Its absurd you guys feel you can do a better drafting job because you watch highlights on youtube or watch espn/nfl network. When the NFL are paying scouts to watch prospects throughout college.

 

I'm all for physical freakish guys with raw talent. thats why i wanted Jason Pierre Paul instead of Morgan. I wonder who the Titans would have picked if the Giants didnt get Paul? i bet they still went with Morgan.

 

what did the scouts say about Victor Cruze and Arrian Foster?

 

I'm not just going off but what the scout said but to help some members realize we aren't scouts leave that job to the front office. William Hayes was a small school prospect who had measurables in comparison to Mathis, anyone can admit that if you do the research they were similar coming out of college still doesn't prove anything. It's just absurd just because they aren't on someone watch list it was a bad move. Just like if we would or another team drafted Foster or Cruz in the 4th, just because they panned out makes it no difference to the Williams trade he had the potenital to be good which is what you look for in the later rounds.

 

Go ahead pull out one of your mock drafts you made for us doubtful half the guys you picked won't be available when you pick. Their is more to drafting/scouting than you think, do you even watch college football or just wait for Mel Kiper to open his mouth. Was Brandon Carr on your 650 list?