Discussion in 'NFL Draft' started by NewHorizans, May 2, 2013.
Rob Rang LOVED Jake Locker in 2011 too.
The better question is why would anyone tank games for Doug Flutie?
He's a great college quarterback, no doubt... but will he ever be a NFL level quarterback? Unlikely. He's 6'1 200, and honestly probably more of 6'0 195, not great size for an early round QB pick. Right now the NFL is on a dual-threat QB craze, but defenses will figure it out; they always do... they you'll have to rely on your arm.
He seems really into hisself and is blind to how many people are watching his every move. Now, he is a 19 year old kid... what do you expect. I'm not hating on Manziel, with the right coaching/scheme he can be a good NFL QB. Right now he reminds me of Michael Vick, amazing speed and athletic ability, strong [but raw] arm. Biggest flaw with Vick is he can't read an NFL defense and adjust, he just doesn't have the mental flow to be a great NFL QB. Can Manziel, that's to be determined. I get the Cam Newton vibe off him, the cocky "im better than everyone" vibe, which Cam seems to be changing and has figured out. I hope Johnny does the same.
I'd still take Teddy Bridgewater and arguably Tajh Boyd over him. The thing is Manziel is a runner with a good arm, Teddy is a pocket passer with running ability. You always take the pocket passer in my book.
hahahahaha that was perfectly executed. Good on you, Finnebosch.
I'm done with "athletes" at the QB position. I no longer care how fast they are, or how many reps they can bench press. If their speed is a main part of their game, I simply no longer want them. If they have athleticism as a bonus (ala Luck) then that's great.
You see a dependence on that athleticism, and it tends to stop the growth of that player as a QB. Not to mention the health risks of opening yourself up to hits. Even in Luck's case, I'm surprised he did not get hurt, because he even put himself in harm's way more than he should have.
It becomes a "path of least resistance" for them, and they never reach their real potential because they have a broken leg, or mentally, they never get there.
No team tanks games on purpose.
I'm sorry, but is not better than Peyton. That's just silly.
Note the "When it matters" part. In the playoffs, you do not want PM as your QB.
To be perfectly honest, I don't follow college enough to even know who compares to Manziel. All I know is he just won the Heisman as a Freshman. A FRESHMAN! First time ever. I am sure he might not be the best QB right now, but depending on which year he does come out and how next year goes. He could be Top 5. And the fact that ESPN was talking about it today is why I brought it up now. I would love for us to go 10-6 with Locker turning the page as our QB of the future. But IF it doesnt happen. I wanted to get your opinion.
Just because a player might be rated lower doesnt mean he will get drafted there. Look at EJ Manual. Or even Tebow.
Manziel may not even come out until 2015 anyway.
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