Tom Petty vs Van Halen CLOSED

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BAND WARS RD3: Tom Petty vs Van Halen

Poll closed Mar 24, 2016.
  1. Tom Petty

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  2. Van Halen

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  1. avvie

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    Oh, I answered the wrong question...I was talking about his Zep ripoff.
    I didn't know that he actually went after RHCP even though it was a blatant groovejacking. Figures.

    So Smith did a slow VII-IV-I and ChiPeps did a I-VII-VI-I. You don't own chord structures, Tom.
     
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  2. Tuckfro42

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    Dude, you have lost all credibility.
     
  3. avvie

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    It takes elements of it along with bits from other Zep tunes and then presents them in the feel of the Zep records. Not sure why he did it but he has no business suing anyone.
    And Smith didn't "pull" anything...pop music uses the same chords structures all the time, just like blues and country does. You change the lyrics and the feel and one line of the melody and you have an original song...derivitive, but original. Nobody creates in a vacuum.
     
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    No I haven't. I know exactly what I'm talking about. I even get paid for it.
     
  5. Tuckfro42

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    Good grief! The Sam Smith tune is the exact same chording and timing as the Tom Petty tune. There is no argument.
     
  6. Tuckfro42

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    BS. You have an axe to grind. Try to be rational.
     
  7. avvie

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    And that is irrelevant. Petty does not own chord structures.
     
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    No axe towards Petty other than to echo what Nick said. If I had an axe to grind it would be with that honkeyfro'd homogenizing Beatles wannabe he started recording with.
     
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    Dani California does sound like last dance with Mary Jane.

    Just give him credit. Rolling Stones made a song that sounded like Constant Craving by KD Lang. They gave credit.
     
  10. nickmsmith

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    music is entirely a ripoff of something else.
    Look at what it all originated from. Blues is the exact same chord progressions over and over again. Music is entirely taking varying parts of existing music, and twisting it to make it your own.

    I just don't think they were hurting Petty at all by these supposed infractions. If anything, it draws people back to his music. Imitation is the highest form of flattery.

    For as original as Hendrix was, he was still a ripoff artist of the old blues legends as well. If the old blues players were as money hungry as modern people, there would have been thousands of big lawsuits.

    I am a Petty fan, but whatever joy (money) he gets from being listed as a "co-writer" on these songs, hope it's really worth his time. He doesn't need the money, and he had nothing to do with the writing process of the song, other than the artist finding notes similar to his.

    I do understand the issue when people actually sample the actual music without giving credit.. like Vanilla Ice. But songs in a different key, with similar note phrasing, it just seems petty to me.
     
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