Tom Brady

Not a good start but only one game

 

Screw Brady! He looked like a 40 year old man throwing the ball in that game...

 

Typical uninformed fan. There were never tapes of the walk through. It's funny how fans will reference the article that broke right before the Super Bowl saying the walk throughs were taped, but then fail to acknowledge that the article was retracted. But you know, why let facts get in the way of your opinion.



https://www.google.com/amp/www.bostonherald.com/sports/patriots_nfl/new_england_patriots/2008/05/apology%3famp

 

Brady, Manning, or Montana... Who gives a ****??

 

Evil Empire gonna Evil... its what they do

 

You also forgot point to take into consideration is the development of athletes over time. Guys who dominated the competition physically decades ago (particularly at non qb) might not be able to compete with mid tier players in this day and age.

Brady vs Montana is an interesting debate, simply on pure numbers its Brady, and dont give me this losing before you get to the Super Bowl is better than losing the Super Bowl.



I watched Montana a lot, on tape - have watched Brady a lot. Knew football well in both eras. Here are some thoughts, tips, etc.



* They were very similar in that I think a lot of "fans" of the game, would probably not think they were even the best QB of that era, in the 80's most would consider Elway or Marino better pure QB's, if you saw the 30 for 30, Niners actually had brief discussion with Colts about trading Montana for Elway. Brady has had a little bit of that too. They have won the most, maybe had the most winning careers of the 80's, but for pure eyeball test, probably fans of both eras would say a few others were better.



* Not only did Montana lose some title games and not get to as many SB's, he was benched and boo'd in the 87 Divisional game against the Vikings and had a really bad 3-game stretch in playoff years 85-87 was 0-3 with OTD 4 picks and a rating about 50 over those 3 seasons in the playoffs.



* Tuck Rule - ironically benefited both in its interpretation or existence at the time. The Brady fumble vs Oakland overturned, went on to win SB, in the 81 Championship game vs the Cowboys, after "the catch" Cowboys first play goes across midfield to like the 43-45 of the Niners, the tackle was actually also a horse collar which today would of been another 15 on top of that but wasnt a rule then and neither was tuck rule, and look at White's fumble on next play is pretty much identical to tuck rule of Brady.



* Good Luck Bad Luck - Roger Craigs Fumble, the lousy PI call vs the Skins - maybe cost 49ers two more trips to SB, but Eddie Murray's miss, the Bengals secondary player who dropped sure pick down in Miami SB, Brady obviously two recent SB wins "run the ball"...the Chargers defensive player who fumbled a pick to give Pats second life ended up in a title game appearance.



* Incredible help by team - Vinatieri's clutch kicks those first 3 SB's, the 49ers famed goal line stand in their first Sb.



* Salary Cap, Free Agency a factor now, but in Montana's mid 80's 49ers lost some guys to competing USFL.



* Divisions and comp - I think Montana's Conference was tougher, had to go against Belichek's defenses with the Giants, had that great Bears team, had the Gibbs Skins and last days of Landry's Cowboys before they fell off in mid 80's, Division was pretty tough too, Rams and Dickerson early to mid years, towards the end those Mora Saints with the great linebackers and Rams were still relevant.



I think both are amont the greatest careers for a QB to ever play, not sure either are the greatest QBs ever, in terms of just pure ability, but cant argue with their storied careers. I think comparing careers, Brady's is better.

 

Is it the internet that created this crap? Not saying your post is crap, its actually very good and informative. But why in todays day and age is everything Montana vs Brady, Lebron Vs MJ, etc etc. When we were kids nobody was this eager to compare Eddie George to Earl Campbell or MJ to Wilt Chamberlain. People are obsessed with these pointless comparisons.

Babe Ruth would not be Babe Ruth if you went back in time and brought him to current day MLB. Not dsayng he would suck, he might, but its an impossible thing to guarentee anything. Theres no point, today is today. Brady is Best today, Lebron is best today, thats all that matters, but people are damn near going to war on the internet over this crap.

"Lebron misses a free throw"

"MJ Would have made that"

"you dont know that, MJ could have missed"

"Well here a youtube video of MJ with the same score making the free throw"

"Well heres a video of the 62 times MJ missed free throws"

Its a never ending argument over something pointless.

 

There's has always been comparision bro. Its human nature to judge believe it or not. Back then there was really no media like it is today, and thats the difference. Magic and Bird comes to mind back in the 90s when they were being compared or MJ to Magic.

 

I believe we can all agree on who was the worst QB to ever win a Super Bowl...all together now...Trent Dilfer.

 

False.
Peyton Manning 2015. Way worse. He was a TO machine and threw 2200 for 9 TD and 17 INT. 67.9 season rating.

The season was highlight by him breaking the all time yardage record in a game with like 38 yards and 4 INT where he got benched for suckwieler.


Playoffs were slightly better. 3 games 539 yards and 2 TD 1 INT.