Rcarie.. Strike outs are meaningless and a no hitter doesn't count any more than any shutout. Ryan was more eratic than those other top pitchers i mentioned and as i proved he was not the victim of bad teams. 15 of the 27 teams he played on won more games than they lost. He was on more winners than losers! He is not even in the top 5 of the post 1969 era so how is it arguable that he be in the top 5 of all time. It's insane!