Peoples football IQs drop about 30 points on this board if the discussion involves Manning. I understand the division rival causes negative bias towards him, and the obvious homerism most of us will have, but I have to agree with you completely. Anyone who watched that game and didnt realize how terrible the entire offense was doesnt know anything about football. Manning certainly wasnt great, but he was as good or better than any other QB could have been under the intense pressure he had on him all day. And anyone talking about the 4th down play is just obvious looking for something to ***** about, because that was clearly the right call to be made at that time, and it was a conversion, so what is the big deal with that.