So if we don't get "talent" next year, we still won't have any indication/idea of how Munchak is as a HC? You don't need the AFC pro bowl team out there to get an indication about the head coach. You don't like the SF analogy, what about Seattle? Instantly Pete Carrol and Jim Harbaugh had their players, that were already there, playing to their abilities, playing tough, physically and with an uncommon energy out on the football field. They established an identity and a new culture about their respective teams......the right mentality can go a long way, even for a team that doesn't have many pro bowlers. There are things a coach can immediately instill that will show up on the field as a positive sign. I've not seen that positive sign from Munchak.