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Perhaps Vince Young was more crucial than you thought.

Discussion in 'Tennessee Titans and NFL Talk' started by Deuce Wayne, Oct 24, 2011.

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  1. theprizdfighter

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    CJ hasn't hit his elite speed once this season...the question is did he lose it or has he not had the chance to use it.
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  2. Riverman

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    I'd be interested to know if CJ had more carries per game with Vince under center. If we are behind as we were in the 0-6 start, we were less likely to run the ball. In short, I believe it likely there were more passes (and less runs) with Collins versus VY.
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  3. Fry

    Fry Hatin' is what I do.

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    You nailed it. During the 0-6 start CJ got 20+ carries once. After that he got 20+ carries nine out of ten games(seven being 25+).

    http://www.nfl.com/player/chrisjohnson/262/gamelogs?season=2009
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  4. nate42104

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    I'm not smart enough to know why CJ has been a total disaster this year. I tend to think that any RB is gonna struggle @ Pitt, @ NYJ, and @ NE in a snow storm. Aside from those 3 games, vs Jacksonville and Houston during that 0-6 run CJ ran for a combined 280 yards (right on par with his post 0-6 average)

    After the 0-6 start we played Arizona, St Louis, Miami, Buffalo, and Seattle to name a few..some of the worst RB's in the league have career games against.

    Obviously a QB will have some bearing over how a RB will play, but lets not forget that VY was not chosen by any of the other 31 teams to be a starter over whoever they had on their roster at that time. And, there are teams with massive QB issues.

    I don't know if its coaching, not being in shape from the lockout/holdout, the o-line, or something else. But, I just don't see it being because we aren't stretching the field for him by throwing the ball down field. We're doing that like never before, and far more successful at it than anytime since McNair.
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  5. Psychop1

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    Mawae. Mawae was crucial.
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  6. theprizdfighter

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    Deuce hit it on the nail with CJ had another gear with VY in the backfield ,but the most surprising thing is our O-line sucks.
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  8. Riverman

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    Come on Deuce- we all know this is your alter-ego character. Eds clothing- Really?
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  9. JCBRAVE

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    It's true, having a mobile QB makes Chris Johnson CJ2K. With a mobile QB, defenses have to wait for C.J. in fear that something will pop out the back door. Teams always wasted a LB on Vince because they had to spy him to be sure he wasn't running the other way with the ball. Let's get Locker in on some plays to find out.
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  10. Mr.biggums

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    The burst is there....everytime CJ tried to just burst through he as hit immediately. Hell, Cushing almost took his head off one play while another guy tackled him in the shins.

    I saw the burst and quickness. Indecisiveness is also there but when you barrel through as fast as you possibly can as he has tried and get walloped, who can blame him?

    It's sad really. Our line can not operate and our play selection is making it really easy to tee off early in the game.....
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