That's correct. We will get either a 3rd or 4th for Finny. We lost significantly more free agents than we signed ( I think it was actually 3 or 4 more). The biggest indicator of comp pick value is contract value. Finnegan's contract is $10m/yr. Last year the Raiders got a 3 for Nmandi A (abt $11m/yr) and the Vikings got a 4 for Rice (abt $8m/yr). Finnegan will be either a 3 or a 4 and with his high level of play and significant playing time, it may bump up to a 3. I also think we get a 5 or a 6 for Jason Jones.
I would love Chris Ivory, but he is a RFA and we are unlikely to be able to get him without trading away a pick. I think the Saints will put a 1st round tender on him, but he could probably be had in a trade for a 3rd or a 4th round pick.
Productivity isn't a factor. The formula isn't public, but it is essentially based on the player's contract value, with an adjustment for playing time and a smaller adjustment for any post-season honours. Jones' contract was $4.5m/yr which is probably a straight-out 5th on it's own. He has been averaging between 40 and 65% of snaps, which is below average for a DT, but not significantly so. I would suggest that will slip him down to a 6th.
We lost: Finnegan Jones Avery Ruud Hayes We signed: Wimbley Hutchinson wasn't a UFA (he was cut) That means only our top-4 losses are eligible and I don't think Avery or Ruud will generate us a comp pick (maybe a 7th at best).
Wimbley was cut, too. http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/7697820/oakland-raiders-cut-kamerion-wimbley-7-sacks-2011
According to Wiki, productivity is included. If it's not public, how do you know? In '11 we lost Babin & Tulloch -- we recv'd a 4th. Babin signed a 5yr/27mil contract & was a Pro-Bowler Tully signed a 5yr/25mil contract We lost: Finnegan Jake Scott Jason Jones William Hayes Chris Hope Barrett Ruud Ahmard Hall We Re/Signed: Dave Ball Tim Shaw Steve Hutchinson Kamerion Wimbley Leger Douzable Lavelle Hawkins Michael Otto Jordan Babineaux Craig Stephens Zach Diles
It would be silly for the Saints to 1st round tender Ivory. The compensation required for a 1st round tender is too high for a 4th string RB.
