Gunny, you want to know the first thing they taught me at college... my very first directing class the exact works of the doc were: "YOU CAN GIFT WRAP **** BUT THAT DOESNT MAKE IT A GOOD PRESENT." As far as Bay goes, and Armageddon... He is good at 1 thing and that is selling his movies to the right audience. I went gaga over that movie when it came out. Why??? because i was a young teenybopper... All my friends wanted to go see Ben Affleck get the girl. Personally I wanted to see Steve Buscemi (I've had an obsession with him ever since i watched Pulp Fiction) ride a nuke. But as a teenage girl I was willing to overlook any imposibilities. I was too overloaded by the cast/dialog/and camera work to care what laws of physics they were breaking. Pearl Harbor works along the same lines. With the proper marketing EVERY girl that could take her boyfriend to the movies that weekend did so. Not only did you get Affleck but now add (gag me) Josh Hartnett in there and none of the girls cared it was a "war" movie. He overloaded your stimulation again and the teenagers leaving the theatres wished they had lived through Pearl Harbor so they could find the love of thier life. Now both are considered huge hits. People can complain about him and those films all they want.... won't change the fact that he made it work for a LARGE number of people.