Mario Williams possibly big bust??

DE Mario Williams went from a late 1st round selection to being the #1 pick overall, and this was in a matter of 1 1/2 to 2 weeks before the draft. Am i the only one that sees something wrong with this, a few scouts went to see some of the nc state games this year and they said that they wouldnt have even noticed him if they werent told to watch him. And it has been said that he is a very inconsistent player... the texans better hope that this isnt true what do u guys think?

While there are worries about him, he's been a top ten pick for many many weeks. He didn't shoot up nearly that quickly.

He's been a top 5 pick forever. Even before the College Football season started he was said to have the potential to be a top 10 pick. He was the #1 DE prospect from the start and it wasn't ever close, well Kiwi had a little momentum for a while, but he always had legitimate flaws, people just didn't bring them up.

Busts are usually made from big workouts. Mario Williams had a big work out but so did Vernon Davis and I really can't see a bust from him (and if he is, its probably due to Alex Smith).

i dont think that there is much of a chance for vernon davis to be a bust, hes a huge guy and hes as fast as a wr, thats very very dangerous

I can't find the link but I seen it on ESPN earlier that in 3 games against I-AA opposition he had no sacks. Thats quite diabolical against that kind of opposition.

I don't believe Vernon will be a bust, I was just noting how he went from 1st round to top-10 in run lasting 4.38 seconds.

I'd never heard of Mario until he was brought up on this board a couple of months ago.

BUST

If Mario isn't at least as good as Peppers he will be considered a disappointment for where he was drafted and what he is getting paid.

Give me a break...

I see so much ignorance about this guy. His stats were better in 2005 than julius pepper's stats in his last season. Peppers had 4 fewer sacks than williams. He is not just a workout guy he was an exellent player. Streaky? Sure with the pass rush he may totally dominate 5 games a year and just be a good run stopper in the other 11. He's not a speed rusher he is 300 lbs!

If mario disappoints it will be the way haynesworth has disappointed. Maybe he isn't consistent enough. Maybe injury keeps him from dominating the way he should or maybe there are stamina issues.

I think mario is going to be a good player no matter what. We'll see if he can be a dominant player. The texans probably drafted a fine player but we drafted a future hall of fame QB.

RollTide thats the problem with the Texans taking Williams. He may be a "fine" player but people consider Bush to be the best prospect out of college this decade. Once a decade prospect. I've heard people talk about Mario in the same context but thats simply not true- Julius Peppers came out in 2002.

Edit: found marios stats:

Julius Peppers vs Mario Williams (both 3 year starters)

TK AST TOT SCK FR INT
63 17 80 10 0 3
64 20 84 15 1 1
50 12 62 6 1 1

177 49 226 31 2 5

32 30 62 14.5 1 0
20 20 40 7 0 0
34 22 56 5 1 0

86 72 158 26.5 2 0

Top is Julius Peppers. Looking at career totals there really is no comparison. Julius dominated tackles got more sacks and would seem to have good ball skills with his 5 ints. You could say Mario was on a dominant d-line so didn't have to make the catches or all the tackles but 68 is a big drop off and Julius had Ryan Sims (who went 6th overall that year). Theres also the consideration that 73% of Julius' tackles were solo in comparison to Marios' 61%.

Coming out Julius Peppers was 6'6, 283lbs a 40 time of 4.68 with a 39" vertical compared to Mario at 6'7, 295lbs with a 40 time of 4.66 with a 40" vertical.

The stats seem to indicate that Mario Williams just isn't the prospect Julius Peppers was when he came out. Both had 1st round DTs inside them..