Jay Cutler

With an offense like that the Texans wouldn't need a defense. He still would have a hard time getting a first down. He is getting that deer in the headlights look like David Carr. "Oh no!? They didn't go 3 Mississippi before they rushed me. Throw the ball away, blame it on the WRs and go pout on the sidelines." Works everytime.
I have a question for the Titan faithful. 3 weeks ago y'all O-line was great and Crumpled and the WR's would be able to "get'r done". What happened? Is the frount office now dumb as a box of rocks for not getting a real WR, (like the rest of the planet thought they should) or is it that the O-line Y'all just backed up a truck load of money for garbage? We all know it isn't Vince Leafs fault. He can walk on water.

Ha, Vince Leaf!

It's amazing how much panic there is on this board after one bad pre-season game.

Agreed...but i'll make my decision on how he has developed during the regular season

who said vince leaf? i dont agree but thats funny

this is 30 games into his career, and he still doesn't seem like he's figured it out. You act like this is a brand-new occurance. People aren't panicking, people like you are in denial refusing to see what's really gong on. We could use your logic, let him run around and make plays with his legs, eventually he will get hurt like last year and have to make plays from the pocket. You are making the same mistake he is, relying on his legs to make plays instead of using HIS arm and WRS LEGS!

BTW, this is TWO bad preseason games. After fridays game, it will be THREE, then what will you say? It's just the preseason, blahblahblah? So you're allowed to suck in the preseason? Not for someone making 70mil supposed to be our Franchise QB!

Our Oline is still man-handling Dlines. Crumpler didnt even get much action last game. And the receivers are better than they were last year. Vince sucked last year aswell.
Sooooo...

At worst, we make the playoffs as a wildcard team again. At best, the Texans break even. You probably don't want this battle.

This is going into his 3rd year! His rookie season he played great and last year he got hurt. You take away his legs and he's not going to do much. It's like taking away Brady's throwing arm or McNair's toughness when he was a Titan. I'm not trying to make any excuses but when the best RB he's played with is Lendale White and the best WR he's ever had is Drew Bennett he should get some credit.

Of course we should use my logic. Your saying that if he runs then he'll get hurt. Well no ****! What do you want him to do? Sit in the pocket the whole game? I'm not in denial I'm just no drinking the Kool-Aid that's going around.

All I read from the scouts coming into the draft was VY is a project. It'll be at least 3 years till he becomes a good QB. Did everyone forget that? Just a few weeks ago this site was loaded with articles about how VY was progressing. Fast forward 2 weeks and all heck has broken loose. After 2 preseason games! Does anyone actually think they're using 20% or more of their plays?

I'll tell you something. This stuff is about to :hitfan:

I'll keep supporting VY some of you can go check out how Matt Leinart is doing.

:vince:

Take away the games that Pacman won for Vince, and I wouldn't say he played "great" his rookie year.

If VY didn't capitalize off those turnovers then it wouldn't have mattered anyway.