If you had to fire either Gray or Palmer?

I'd go with Palmer. The playcalling is abysmal. We can't keep the ball. Why are did we only run slants to Wright and check downs to Cook in the last 5mins? Where are the sweeps to Cj?I honestly cant believe this guy is running this Offense. In my opinion he;s the first head to roll....

I actual feel slightly sorry for Gray, yes I think he is a little soft in the playcalling but he's not the one whiffing tackles all over the place.
I also liked that he blitzed a little more today than in previous games, it just didnt come off.
Our penalties and turnovers are killing the defense. Through 5 games, has any other NFL defense spent as long as we have on the field?? I really doubt it.

I'd fire Jerry Gray in a heartbeat. The parking lot attendant could call a better game than he's been.

There's only answer...

Both.

If it's either/or, it's probably both.

As much as I want to say that us being the first team since 1954 to allow 30+ points for the first 5 games is enough damage for Gray being fired, I can't. The offense stalls continually and our T.O.P. is disgusting. Any team would give up an excessive amount of points if their defense is on the field twice as much as the offense.

This doesn't even take into account our piss poor front line generating zero pressure (Wimbley, where'd you go?) and Whiffin.

Give Palmer a kick in the mouth and send him on his way. He's handcuffed our offense.

Palmer. I don't care who he developed, that's for the QB coach. He can't run an NFL offense.

Gotta be Gray. He's bottom 5 in literally every defensive stat..

Sure Palmers play calling is average, but hes done decent. Not his fault the run blocking and cj sucks... but he needs to find a way for it to work.

Can I change my vote and go with option C. Munchak? If he's let go Gray and Palmer stand no chance and we killed 2 birds with 1 stone.

This is by far the worst defense in the league but so for sue Gray but in reality they are both horrible and were nothing more than last minute rejects anyway so I say in reality the both have to go....and soon! They are hopeless!

And I'm really bummed, I had high hopes for Gray and from what he seemed to be able to do in Buffalo and all the talk of getting bigger up front and being physical and then we get this soft wussy ass defense that can't get pressure on the QB, can't tackle, can't stop the run, can't stop the pass, can't create turn overs, and can't get off the field on 3rd down.....I mean think about, there is not one thing this defense does good at this point! Ugly!